GeForce GTX 970

JimK

degen Which 970 do you have?
Please everyone give characteristics of your cards!
Which company? Which memory Chip? Not all 970, 1660 etc etc etc are the same!!!
Thank you…

AgentX20

JimK Do you (or anyone else) know if the Elpida memory chip is considered safe for strain symptoms or not?
Thank you very much…

No idea sorry.

My formerly "good" 970s don't work for me now and I've no idea why…

Jack

AgentX20 You originally had a 4790k/ASUS Z97 DELUXE motherboard with a Gigabyte G1 Gaming 970 with no strain at all right? Then replaced it with ASUS Z97 DELUXE motherboard but there was always a low level strain right?

I've found that the EVGA Z390 Dark and both EVGA Z490 Dark motherboard have a low level strain no matter what card is used with some BIOS versions being better than others, i didnt realize this until i picked up a EVGA SR-3 which has the same exact BIOS interface/design except it had zero low level strain of the Z390Dark/Z490Dark. Im starting to suspect motherboards loaded with too many I/O features such as onboard Wifi are causing some type of interference.

So far i have tested other workstation based systems based on the same socket as the SR-3 such as the HP Z6 G4 and Dell T7820 (both can run Windows 7 so great for testing also) and ive been able to put together some excellent strain free systems on Windows 10 1809 LTSC, 2021 LTSC and Voidlinux(havent tested Win 11). At this point i would only recommend workstation chipset motherboards with barebones/minimal I/O. The Dell T5820's and HP Z4 G4's based on socket 2066 are dirt cheap and have a minimal I/O. I'm starting to suspect aside from the GPU dithering issue that there is some quality control/interference issues with the I/O on many consumer motherboards.

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Jack great find and i wouldn't be surprised if it’s true for everyone else. What graphic cards works for you eye strain free?

AgentX20

Jack AgentX20 You originally had a 4790k/ASUS Z97 DELUXE motherboard with a Gigabyte G1 Gaming 970 with no strain at all right? Then replaced it with ASUS Z97 DELUXE motherboard but there was always a low level strain right?

I had a Gigabyte Z97 board that worked pretty well with my 970 card, in that I was able to get a working setup and even when that went bad I was able to revert to something good. Then that mobo cooked itself and my SSD so I replaced it with another Z97 board, thinking something similar would reduce the chances of problems… something I'd seen with a couple of more modern replacement builds that wouldn't work and both went to the kids.

I managed to get the Z97 working for a good while until I foolishly tried a modern Nvidia driver. Since then I've been unable to get a working 'good' setup. Same CPU, same GPU, same memory, same mobo chipset, same monitor. Worse still my kids had my spare 970 cards and they're the same now in that I can't get a working setup. They of course have had new drivers run on them.

My theory is that these newer drivers changed something fundamental on the GPUs, so that even old Windows 10 builds are no longer safe havens. It could also be the mobo and my past experience with newer CPUs, mobos and the same GPU suggests there could be something to the motherboard theory…

JimK

Jack Jack which Motherboard do you suggest for a strain-free experience?
I am currently using MSI MPG B550. Not terrible, but not good either.
I would love to hear some suggestions! Thank you…

Jack

AgentX20 Very interesting, i also read you tried re flashing the same vbios to one of the 970's but it still didnt help. Perhaps try an old Fermi based Quadro 4000, its not a powerful card but the last supported driver version for it is 377.83 on Windows, so it should be useful for comparing as it wouldnt have had newer drivers ran on it.

JimK I personally have not tested AM4 motherboards for a prolonged amount of time. But JTL uses an ASUS Pro WS X570-ACE motherboard with an AMD Radeon Pro W5500 without strain on Linux. If i personally were assembling an AM4 based system that is 100% the motherboard i would go with as it has a minimal I/O but as always YMMV. But from what i have personally tested, none of my LGA 3647 based systems have given me any universal low level strain. (EVGA SR-3, HP Z6 G4, Dell T7820) unfortunately LGA 3647 motherboards are not the easiest/cheapest to come across so the most economically viable option is to find them in a used HP Z6 G4 or Dell T7820.

https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/motherboards/workstation/pro-ws-x570-ace/

https://www.ebay.com/itm/355678496683

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GPU's that i can use:
Quadro RTX 5000 16GB "Turing based, Samsung VRAM"
Quadro RTX 4000 8GB "Turing based, Samsung VRAM"
Quadro K4200 4GB "Kepler based, Hynix VRAM"
Quadro 4000 2GB "Fermi based, Samsung VRAM"
EVGA GTX 680 Classified 4GB "Kepler Based, Samsung VRAM"

Bad GPU's i cant use no matter the configuration or OS.
RTX A4000 16GB "Ampere based, Samsung VRAM"

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Jack

Jack, are you using Dell UP2720Q with rtx4000, and feel no strain with w10 1809 / 21h2 ?

Clokwork

One thing I'm curious about is how people are with the Switch, Xbox, or Playstation. I believe they all use newer than late AMD GPUs. I can use all of them no problem on displays I'm comfortable with.

JTL

Clokwork One thing I'm curious about is how people are with the Switch, Xbox, or Playstation. I believe they all use newer than late AMD GPUs

Switch is NVIDIA

Clokwork

JTL Ah you're right. I forgot about that. I do recall it reminding me of the Nvidia shield for some reason long ago. Thanks for that.

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