I have been struggling with eye strain myself for six months severely and am just finding this sight. I think I am ordering an AMD graphic card to see if that completely elevated it. When i say eye strain i mean the ocular muscles around the eye, edge, and the temple. particularly for me its lighter everywhere and heavies on my left eye on the outer upper left edge if that makes sense. If i am on the screen for a while i can feel it when not using my screen by simply focusing Things that have helped me: Quantum Dot monitor from Samsung Getting rid of Intel NUC Dithering set enabled not auto or disabled, I use temporal dithering not static or dynamic,6 bit color not 8 bit, and Color range that is full. Powermizer set to prefer maximum performance (Nvidia 1050 SC graphics) Digital vibrance set to zero can help but i prefer color most of the time. I used to have an INTEL NUC and that is when it got really bad. I thought it was the lighting. Since then I have built a machine. I am going to read through the forums to see what I find on AMD graphics cards. I may also try switching to some version of Windows. Have to see. But if my eye strain was not here. my productivity as a programmer would literally be 10x. but thats just not the case when focus is interrupted by biological function. its hell but there must be a way through this. I mean other people look at screens without the type of eyestrain, there must be something that can solve out problems as well. I am getting led strips delivered tomorrow as well. I had bulbs but the flicker was detectable through my smart watch camera. I ordered a power supply to drive them with DC current. I even called the Mean Well power supply manufacture and asked them about ripple (AC current seeping in to DC current outputs). They said it should not be an issue. The kelvin temperature is cold white. somewhere above 5500k i think. Have to see but i wanted to post here before i went to bed. Be well.

I meant smart phone camera*. The kelvin temperature of the LED's is cold white. Will report back of course

You're not going to be super happy with an AMD card, they dither pretty badly. But there might be a way to turn it off in the Linux drivers. GeForce is pretty much the way to go if you want to avoid eyestrain.

I updated my Nvidia driver today from the 378 to 381.09 and that made a world of difference for me. I am using incandescent until the LED strips arrive later today. I am buying a mac i think later in the week with the monitor all in one. I think I may trying installing Windows on my current machine. I cant help but feel like a second class citizen as a Linux user at this point. Noticing this difference in display quality through the drivers has just caused me anxiety. how can one perform consistently if the tools ones uses are not consistent. Thank you for the advice on the AMD graphics card. I shall avoid. I considered getting a mac mini and sticking with the quantum dot but i think my safest best is go with a monitor that has been tested with the system. would you agree? Also, does mac or windows allow the dithering to be cut off? I have read that Nvidia control panel is similiar in Windows as it is on Ubuntu/Linux. Do you recommend one over the other? I am installing a second hard drive to install Windows on this system. I cant find a way to do it with my current harddrive without running into errors. Anyway, thanks again for responding. Be well.

There is absolutely no way to disable dithering on the Mac, although many people were working on this the only people to find a solution were some external monitor replicator people and they only made it available to their customers. On Windows, nVidia hasn't got dithering - at least so far. AMD has it and there's a registry key to turn it off but it's unclear if that works well. Intel has an app to turn it off, but it's been hit or miss for users here.

@"Wrightpt1"#p2302 If you don't need a fast graphics card, try an NVIDIA Quadro NVS 295 from HP. It's like 10 years old, but still good for office use and can even play accelerated H.264 videos. It's cheap to get on ebay, there are lots of them, and they sell for like $10. In fact I'd recommend them to anyone as a very cheap standard setup to test for reduced eye strain. I still use it, with a passive HDMI adapter, and it's very usable with Windows 10 pre-anniversary. It's much better than the newer-gen NVIDIA GeForce GT 710 (from 2016) I recently tried. Even on Arch LInux I recently saw some improvements, maybe they changed someting in the Kernel's modesetting driver (nouveau) for the better.

solid input. I say the mac because my roommate has one and it never gives me any problems when i get on. although it has been brief stints. nothing heavy like combing over text like on my monitor/system. I cant say for sure. I will def give the Quadro NVS 295 graphics card a look . I use a display port right now for 144hz on my monitor but can prob still get 120 hz thought that card. Maybe I am not as far off as i feel I am. I mean if Macs wont help, windows here i come. See how the graphics card will fit into my setup.

I am also considering getting a 27 inch monitor. I mean that should not add to the strain in reality should it. the extra real estate would really allow me to feel more at home behind the monitor.

it was def the driver for me. the Ubuntu 378.13 is trash to me. i can notice it right after booting and doing a bit of web browsing. I hope they only get better from here. i was reading through some of there documentation. It seems Windows is def a huge focus of their's. They allow one to override the windows settings through the Invidia Control panel.

Writing this from Windows 10 Pro. I am in a not so well lit room. this would have killed me on Linux. But here I am grabbing another gear i feel like. So far this is much more relaxing to my eyes than the Linux environment. especially with this monitor i have. I am still considering the mac. will have to see.

@"Gurm"#p2303 Does this also apply to the nVidia 10x0 series (Pascal)? I've heard on this forum that those cards have some sort of extra dithering/processing baked-in which causes problems? I'll still be using Windows 7/Linux so hopefully avoid the W10 headaches for now.

Awesome Community, So Thankful Someone got the convo going

Gurm

The processor is irrelevant except that it usually has integrated graphics. If you're using a discrete card the processor has absolutely no bearing. Switching to AMD involves swapping the motherboard, usually. Which means a new chipset and a whole mess of drivers. I'd recommend against it, and keep your i7 which is fine. Just use a good nVidia card from a known good generation. Any 7x0 will be fine or an old 9x0.

Wrightpt1

Installed Debian 8 Jessie. and running 375 driver WITH Nvidia 1050. Its so much better than Ubuntu. I think for me Ubuntu and Windows are the problem. potentially not Nvidia (at least I am hoping. I realize people here have told me different but I hate to think I can't use the most current architectures in GPU's). I have not tried Windows 7 but i am dreading trying to use that as a daily driver. I think I am going to try Fedora next. I may try Arch linux.

Also I took the blue screen filters off of both my screen and my phone and it actually helped. Especially when looking at one from the other. It lessoned the temple sensations/itching and the "crawlies' i feel around my eye.

JTL

Wrightpt1
Have you changed the font rendering settings at all?

https://ledstrain.org/d/51-debian-linux-font-rendering-eyestrain/8

Package is called gnome-tweak-tool on Debian.

Good luck

Wrightpt1

JTL thanks, It definitely does help. I changed it to none and typing text is such a better experience. I feel like photons are not being lobbed at my eyes in a way they cant handle. so much better. Great input!!!

JTL

Wrightpt1 No problem. Should probably have none set as a default because of modern LCD tech and what not.

Wrightpt1

Got the 970 today. Installed the most update Nvidia drivers on Linux Mint and it is soo much better. Not quite perfect but its def a different story. So crazy.

I may try a 1070 or Radian 580 just to see how my eyes react.

I am also installing Linux Parot to see how that works with my eyes. But just want to say thanks to everyone for providing input that the MSI GTX 970 will allow for one to get intimate with the screen again.

Be well.

I am also getting a different lighting setup. My current lights are DC constant voltage leds. I am getting constant current leds to see if that helps any as well.

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