New Microsoft Apps (Teams, Authenticator etc)

stede

Hi all,

is anyone experiencing the same with nearly all new MS Apps like Teams 2.0 on Windows 10, Authenticator etc?
I got instand eyestream, headache wehn using them.
For example it is Teams 2.0.
New Version of Authenticator on iOS (Version 6.8.1). It is nearyls the same as when using Windows 11.
Does anyone know whatr they changed?

regards

stede

thorpee

Is there a graphic acceleration setting in the new Teams settings? if so try toggling it off.

jrhack

Stede,

YES!! I have an external GPU with a GeForce 610 (old card) and BenQ monitors that I've been using comfortably for 7-8 years. This is the only way I'm able to use my employer's laptop machine. This morning my Teams updated to New Teams and IMMEDIATELY it gave me a migraine and I couldn't focus on it. All the text was blurry, I couldn't bring it into focus, and then I got my characteristic migraine. This was all within seconds and on the above setup that works for everything else I do at work, including Classic Teams.

Luckily, I am still able to switch it back to Classic Teams, so I'm still good for now. But, I imagine that option will go away eventually. Were you able to resolve this somehow? I didn't dig in, I just switched it back. I can see that Classic teams has a setting to Disable GPU hardware acceleration. Mine is currently unselected so it is using that hardware acceleration in Classic and doesn't seem to bother me. That's the only setting I see in Classic that seems to deal with graphics. Maybe I'll disble and see if Classic feels any different, maybe even better…?

BTW - I also seem to have this problem with Proton Mail's web interface. On a machine and in a browser that I use for EVERYTHING else on the internet just fine, that one website seems to bother my eyes. It's not as bad as New Teams, it doesn't trigger severely and immediately, but I can sense a gradual increase in discomfort while using their website.

Jason

Lauda89

Hi all,
on Monday a new version of microsoft teams was installed on the company pc and after restarting the app I immediately felt eye/face tension and then the usual migraine. There was no other windows, driver or BIOS update.
The problem is that I get the migraine even if I don't use Teams.. Is it impossible for an app update to have changed something at the system level? Is it just my "updates" anxiety that wanted to ruin another PC that wasn't giving me problems? 🙁

simplex

Lauda89

check my 1st post -> https://ledstrain.org/d/2807-safe-hardware-pc-builds-list

Staycalmsyndrome

Lauda89 New Teams app runs on Edge webview2 which is based on the Chrome renderer.
In theory, you could use any command line switch from Chrome to disable hardware acceleration. To do this, make a desktop shortcut for Teams, right click on it and choose properties. At the end of your target line, add, with a space, the command line switch: --disable-gpu. Other methods are illustrated here.

Also, make sure to completely close it and not just minimise it to system tray.

Lauda89

simplex I have an i5 1335U so I would be in the “part 3” situation in your post. Where is the register file you are talking about? So I can check what value I have! Thank you very much

simplex

Lauda89 part 3

Nope, part1 - some apps initialize grapfic default settings, so if you disable dithering and start application, it can reset your driver config to default

With 12gen you can use ditherig - just send here screenshot ditherig launched (how ditherig display your gpu, first 3 rows in app)

Lauda89

simplex You mean this one?

simplex

Lauda89

Yes

Use this database file, replace original one. In default (when you launch ditherig), it set 8-bit no dithering. In spatial, it set 6-bit + spatial ( also good ). Play with those 2 modes by your taste

floydian

MS Teams… that's the app which forced me to quit my IT Manager career. It all started in 2022, when, after May's update, the App started giving me instant symptoms - diziness, motion sickness, it was even hard for me to build a sentence. Out of nowhere, on absolutely safe system with blocked updates etc. I managed to roll back previous version, block MS Teams updates via entry in hosts file, but it worked only for few months - on September 2022 old version was blocked. At the same time Android version of MS Teams also became unusable for me (what's interesting, I had to erase my phone and set up from the beginning after Teams update. Even after removing it, the phone was still gving me symptoms). Disabling HW accelaration didn't work for me.

What worked, was trying Linux on another "safe" laptop which I bought (Lenovo T580 with specific Innolux screen). After trying several distrous, KUbuntu 20.0.4, with some adjustments and Chromium 107 (newer versions were giving me symptoms) worked fine when using MS Apps in web version until January 2024, when the company I worked for forced everyone to work only from company Windows laptop). SInce then I didn't find any solution to use Teams (and other Microsoft apps, both in Desktop or web version) on safe Windows computer.

It's not only Teams in my case - for isntance, Slack was giving huge symptoms even in May 2022. Bot apps were affecting the entire system even whin minimized.

Best Regards,

Tom