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Ubuntu 24.04

eDenon-2

OS:            Ubuntu 24.04
GNOME Version: 46
Kernel:        Linux 6.8.0-31

I feel Ubuntu 24.04 has the same color as Ubuntu 23.10. There is no improvements.

jordan

eDenon-2 so 24.04 feels safe with your arc?

brjdenis

eDenon-2

There is no difference from the previous 22.04 LTS version. With modern GPUs it still gives me bloodshot eyes.

eDenon-2

jordan Intel and AMD graphics cards are both ok, both eyestrain free.

Donux

eDenon-2 Does it still allow to chose x11 or wayland ?

eDenon-2

Donux It allows, by default it uses wayland.

K-Moss

Years ago I switched from Ubuntu to KDE Neon. I haven't tested a whole bunch of distros, but KDE Neon was an improvement, and I continue to like it. A while ago someone here said KDE is the best desktop environment for their eyes, with GNOME coming in last. He placed Cinnamon second. I've seen many say Linux Mint (usually Cinnamon) is fine for their eyes. Also Manjaro KDE has typically scored better than other options.

I like KDE Neon because it it uses the familiar Ubuntu base. Linux Mint of course also builds on Ubuntu. With KDE Neon you can choose between X11 and Wayland while with Mint you must use X11 now and for some more years. Linux Mint also disables snaps. Not a big deal, but I kind of snap functionality since a few of my key programs have officially verified and maintained snaps.

I haven't tested the eye health differences between Linux Mint Cinnamon and KDE Neon, but maybe I should. In terms of which DE is better for daily usage, I would think KDE Plasma 6 is significantly better than anything else.

As always, I am interested in reading the experiences and observations of others.

The ones most of interest to me are Manjaro KDE and Linux Mint Cinnamon because these are the ones most likely to alleviate eye strain complaints based on what I've read.

Also interested in any anecdotes from others regarding KDE Neon.

Donux

K-Moss I felt that too - i.e. KDE Neon better than ubuntu. But, this is really more UI based, as to my understanding ubuntu base is handling everything apart UI environment. So its in a way the same ubuntu. Maybe KDE is a bit more pleasant. I am planning to test Manjaro, as it is arch based, so somehow it is away from debian/ubuntu family and its derivatives. Otherwise you really drink the same tea, just from a different cup 🙂

Sunspark

While I prefer KDE over Gnome due to the flexibility (and design), any improvement is only due to specific things.

-If you're fractional scaling fonts, KDE is better at it than Gnome at the present time. If you use integer multiples, 100%, 200%, 300%, etc. then there is no scaling difference.

-Compositors, this is a big difference. The compositor used can change things. Both environments have their own default compositor, but it can be changed to a third party compositor.

-Video drivers, usually Mesa drivers these days which like to use the 3D pipeline e.g. OpenGL to render 2D instead of the more traditional older DDX drivers for 2D. So the quality of the OpenGL implementation your graphics card has makes a difference too.

-Fontconfig rendering options, defaults can be changed and not every distro makes the same choices.

DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs

Sunspark Since KDE commonly uses Qt Framework and GNOME uses GTK3/4 for stock apps and system UI (although third-party apps arbitrarily can use either one or something unique, independent of the desktop) this can also affect things.

Each UI library has a slightly different way of rendering text and may have significant differences in handling color management.

In the case of Qt there is also two different sub-frameworks within the framework itself: QtWidgets and QtQuick, that each render text entirely differently.

KDE sometimes uses QtQuick for panels in the system UI and some newer apps but generally uses QtWidgets for most stock apps. (I've developed apps with both Qt UI toolkits before and the difference in text rendering was very noticeable.)

Donux

DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs KDE is very organic linux in its true essence and it does not try to mimic Mac OS X. But I doubt eye strain related issues, are influenced by UI more than 20 percent. 80 percent is influenced by what happens under the hood in my opinion.

brjdenis

Im changing my opinion. I tried it again. With Kepler Nvidia card (Quadro K600) and Nouveau Ubuntu 24.04 is a bit better than 22.04. "A bit".

DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs

Donux The way that GTK (Gnome stock apps) and Qt (KDE stock apps) do hardware acceleration, and the details of the antialiasing used on text, is significantly different between the two frameworks. In addition, even within Qt itself, there are differences between Qt Widgets apps and QtQuick apps (about a quarter of KDE stock apps use Quick instead of Widgets) -- QtQuick functions more like a game engine and uses the GPU much more often, and does antialiasing totally differently

ensete

I get significant eye strain on any Ubuntu version beyond 18.04

reaganry

ensete i'm liking 18.04 so far after a couple of days. very different feel than 20. can you share your good tweaks/setup?

ensete

reaganry Just stock Lubuntu 18.04 always worked for me.

I have since moved to debian