No. Updates are on.
Windows 10 or Windows 11? Post here your safe OS build
My 1809 win 10 Is 100% safe
Reinhard62 can you please explain to me how you can stay on a specific build but keep updates on? Doesn't windows automatically update to the newest build if you have it on?
It's Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 21H2.
Since there is no newer LTSC version than 21H2 it can't update to a newer build.
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Donux personally the moment get comfortable with "the one" solution, few days later feel fatigue, drain and eye strain
yeah this is me with many screens I try, it really sucks.
fortunately though my one "nearly perfect" panel, LP133WD2-SLB1, has stayed just as good for almost a year now. I've also technically owned the laptop for 11 years (although only found it again this year) and I can remember that the panel has always felt good to me, even back when I was first using it.
so at this point, that's the only one I can say for certain that I can depend on.
also: that panel is LVDS, but it has an eDP variant (LP133WD2-SPB1)… not sure if it's actually the same as the SLB1, but the specs look supposedly "identical" on Panelook. something I might try is buying a newer 13 inch ThinkPad (e.g. L390 or X390) and then swapping that panel into it
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Reinhard62 So this is stripped down version of windows 10, that is used in terminals and other equipment, but it is based on the same base. Can anyone confirm that this works Today without any problems and does eliminate eye strain? As one person's experience may not work for everyone, as this specific version might have something special going on with drivers for this version for specific machine.
I was able to use Windows 10 until the updates that came out around May of this year. After suffering for a while my IT group set me up with this version. It's working well and I believe doesn't update. I "think" this is the same one @Reinhard62 is talking about. I've been able to use my computer with this version.
Edition Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC Evaluation
Version 21H2
Installed on 7/17/2024
OS build 19044.4780
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.19060.1000.0
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Here's how Microsoft explains it.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/ltsc/overview
I think it "updates" but only security patches. I'm not sure where it was downloaded from but I can ask my IT group.
I was able to use Windows 10 until one of the May updates installed on my computer. Even if I uninstalled the update I couldn't get it to go back to being usable because part of the update didn't seem to be able to be uninstalled. (couldn't uninstall the "Servicing Stack" that came with the update so I assume that caused the issue.)
So we started with a fresh "old" computer (Lenovo T450s) and it has been working with this LTSC version.
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Donux Windows LTSC doesn't get automatic feature updates and only receives small security updates. For example, if you install IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 which is based on the 21H2 feature update, you're stuck with 21H2 for all 10 years of support until 2032.
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You receive updates but no gimmicky stuff because this is an edition for enterprises.
And: 21H2 is the newest LTSC version of Win 10. So there is no other build to update to.
(In other words: There is no LTSC version of 22H2, which is the newest, "normal" Win 10 build.)
And, of course, there is no 24H2 of Win 10, anyway.
And yes, I can confirm that 21H2 LTSC runs perfectly with all software: I have installed Office 2021, Adobe Photoshop, Bridge and Indesign and tons of other programs. It's not a "castrated" windows. Only those superfluous "apps" are missing.
And for my very sensitive eyes it's heaven.
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Staycalmsyndrome I will be giving it a go, if I will find official hashes from Microsoft for these ISO files. Otherwise it is way too risky.
Update:
This is from Microsoft, https://download.microsoft.com/download/c/1/1/c11d2ca5-967c-45c0-bc7d-2d9ca3f1fe07/Windows10Enterprise22H2HashValues.pdf
All good. At least would be able to detect any tampering on those ISO files.
By the way… I really tried everything with Windows 11.
I installed ditherig.exe and Color Control to disable dithering. (I have a PWM free notebook with amd graphics.) But to no avail. After a few minutes my eyes hurt.
I recovered the image of Win 10 and - wham! - the screen was steady like a piece of paper. All good again.
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Attention Everyone: Under no circumstances download those ISO files, as sha256 hashes do not match those provided by official Microsoft sources. I have tried suggested file en-us_windows_10_iot_enterprise_ltsc_2021_x64_dvd_257ad90f.iso and it does not match any of these hashes. Nor there are references to vendor websites for vendor specific ISOs. This means probably there is a spyware inside or something else. But there is zero guarantee these files are free from spyware.
These are official hashes from Microsoft website:
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Well yes, but actually no. The evaluation iso is not the full version. You can use it for up to 360 days(90 days+3 reactivations). You can't activate it and continue using it forever. You also can't upgrade it to the full version, you need to reinstall windows.
Microsoft provides full versions of Windows LTSC on MVS, M365 Admin Center and OEM Portal but for them, you need to pay a high subscription fee. There is no way Microsoft will give out hashes of the actual full versions of LTSC builds to the public unless you're a bussiness/enterprise entity and bought at least five copies of it.
What this means is that you have to trust reputable forums like MyDigitalLife for hashes. The method is illustrated here.
Staycalmsyndrome For me, I would need at least trusted source from one company which mentions hash that I have. For example Dell does it, but it does not match. Sadly, security comes first for me. You could literally plant there key logger and traffic logger, and then use generating AI to give you pretty much everything
I have installed latest windows 10 and it feels much better than windows 11 on my machine. Windows 11 has a lot of visual crapware I suppose and maybe old hardware is not really optimized for it, even if drivers are released.
There are no new drivers for my old hardware. The catalog when in Win 11 has the same old ones as with Win 10. I don't like the interface of 11, so it's fairly safe to say I won't be moving to it (on this hardware anyway).
It's simply Windows 11 that is to blame. They changed the whole video system.
For example, my video player that shows me video files completely smooth under Win 10, has problems with stuttering in Windows 11. They messed it all up.