I really can't figure this one out. Out of nowhere, my main Windows 7 PC started giving me eyestrain - No Windows Updates were installed. - I checked dates for all files in Windows, System32, and SysWOW64 folders, nothing has been updated the only thing new there are some log files - The only update that came is was a definition file update for NOD32, I don't see how this could have any impact - No browser updates were installed Here's where it gets weird. I keep Macrium system images of the PC, for a rolling 4 week period. So I restored an image from 3 weeks ago, and still eye strain. I then restored an image from over 2 YEARS ago, and it is still causing the same problems. The only things updated on those images post restore is that same NOD32 virus definition file which has nothing at all to do with the system display I then thought maybe it was some hardware failure, but here's the thing, when I Remote Desktop into the PC, the problem persists over that connection. That eliminates hardware issues. I don't think any drivers updated, I have no auto updates turned on whatsoever. Any ideas?

Does this issue still exist on remote connections if you scrub the driver with DDU and only use MS's Basic Display Driver that some here like?

Few days ago I found exact same issue with mini-PC IRIS-XE based. I found in the middle of the day, my eyes are overloaded. 1\. I let my eyes relax without using screens - limiting to only 8hr working "safe PC + screen" 2\. I remove win10 update (installed 20nov, its strange coz I blocked any win10 updates) 3\. Last week I experiment with Intel IRIS registers, and found my possible mistake, leading to "bad" registers value. After that, I reset all values to defaults In 1 day after, no more eye-strain. Hope this helps you

@"Sunspark"#p40470 The driver has not changed. It;s the same it always has been I do not know what an IRIX register is

I wonder if it could be the VRM's being worn out and causing micro stutters or some other issues with the system.

> @"ensete"#p40477 IRIX register is Video cards have control commands, registers. I experimented with their values and this could be one of the factors eye-stran

I think I found it, I believe it is the NOD32 detection engine. It updated again by itself and the problem seems better.

That doesn't really make much sense unless it's putting so much load on your system that it's causing voltage ripples or something. Why don't you just use Windows Defender?

@"ensete"#p40510 Wait… what? Can you expand on this? I ask, as I simply cannot get a "good" configuration out of my system that used to be OK. And I do use ESET.

> That doesn't really make much sense unless it's putting so much load on your system that it's causing voltage ripples or something. No, the detection engine is a real time software service that intercepts and processes everything the computer executes. This includes explorer.exe, video drivers, color management, etc. Improper handling in that engine could change the behavior of these components. I suspect that particular version of the detection engine was doing that. The engine updated again on 23rd and the problem vanished. No other changes happened on the PC > Why don't you just use Windows Defender? Habit I guess. I've always used NOD32. But if this happens again I'm nuking it from my system and will switch to Windows Defender. It seems like it was a mistake and the corrected it a few days later with the subsequent update. > I ask, as I simply cannot get a "good" configuration out of my system that used to be OK. And I do use ESET. See above. All AV detection engine run with full system privileges and can do basically anything on your PC, if they did not have this level of access they would be pretty worthless as AV programs.

1. Win7 went EOL in 2020. Disconnect this machine from the internet forever and then do a clean install from a validated Win7 ISO. 2. Win7 Defender does nothing: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/microsoft-defender-windows-7/8856de6b-46b6-4109-8067-a31e0ae022dc 3. "Microsoft Security Essentials reached end of service on January 14, 2020" See #1.

Windows 7 PC causing eye strain out of the blue ... any ideas?

moonpie

ensete Reported to the mods. A support forum is no place for people like you who not only spread false information but also think it is appropriate to make fun of other users.

🙄

Pointing our your fallacious logic and warning others not to run EOL software does not "make fun of other users."

whystrainwhy

moonpie I've tried many different versions of Linux on many different machines and haven't found one to be comfortable. I get horrendous eyestrain and dizziness and headaches :/

moonpie

whystrainwhy And if you ever get windows working, you may be one single update away from eyestrain coming back. If you want long term stability, a supported OS, and control over your hardware, switch to linux.

If your eyes are seeing multiple different PC's and laptops over the course of a few days, all it takes is one display to be bad and the others will seem "bad." Something is wrong if you can't get a single machine feeling okay. It also looks like you are chasing gaming features with dGPU's and those are likely causing your issues.

ensete

whystrainwhy Don't listen to moonpie. He is spreading blatant misinformation. Just ignore him.

You can run Windows 10 perfectly safely by following the instructions I listed:

Do not click links or open attachments in emails

Keep PC behind a physical router

Keep Windows firewall turned on.

Do not visit sketchy websites or download executables you do not recognize

Do that and you will be fine. Your health is far too important to get spooked by liars like moonpie. He is just trying to victim shaming you. Ignore him

whystrainwhy

ensete Thanks for saying that and I agree with you. I think Windows 10 version 1809 would feel good but it's hard to find a legit copy anywhere to try out. I'll keep this in mind. Do you have any thoughts about an old Macbook laptop once Mozillda stops supporting Firefox for specific OS versions? I think I have like a year or a year and a half before Firefox is no longer supported and I wonder what I'll do if I can't find a solution heh

ensete

whystrainwhy Unfortunately I don't have a lot of experience using Macs or know much about browsers for the platform, so I can't really speak to them, sorry.

moonpie

The blind leading the blind.

simplex

moonpie

I disagree with you. You need to understand how malware really harms you, to eliminate paranoia. In general, I agree with @ensete - if you use the OS wisely, you can use even winXP 🙂 Especially, if some win build works less harmful for users, in terms of eye-strain

moonpie

simplex What I understand is the ignorant will not use the OS wisely. That's not paranoia but basic statistics.

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