My brand new Switch, which I want to love so much, is nearly unusable.

I ordered a Skinomi in the hopes that it will help when it's handheld. But even on my TV it isn't great. I don't know if it's the lack of brightness controls, or the fact that I haven't calibrated it very well, or just... that the display chipset in it is utter horseshit... but this is very disheartening.

Thatโ€™s a bummer. Using an Nvidia chipset too.

I bought one around November and it had to go back... ๐Ÿ™ Even when docked via HDMI to my Dell U2414h it caused issues after >30mins of gaming, likewise on the handheld.

My only assumption is there is temporal dithering going on in the background and perhaps also PWM on the handheld display?

Right now my only safe gaming console is a decade old Wii which is still going strong for now.

  • KM replied to this.

    Weird, can play it for hours with no strain on my samsung lcd. Handheld I have not tested much.

    I suspect that there were different runs with different chipset versions. Or maybe a firmware update that killed it. I played with an original-release last year at PAX East and it was flawless for me, I was super pleased with it and immediately added it to my wishlist.

    This one may have to go back. My son is completely enamoured of Zelda, but once he finishes the game this may be $400 that has to go back into my pocket. ๐Ÿ™

    So sad.

    • KM replied to this.

      My money is on a different chipset versions. I bought mine almost a year ago and have latest firmware installed.

      • Gurm replied to this.

        Plsnostrain Yeah. I would love to find someone with a release-day switch, and just trade them the base unit...

        Maybe it's not the chipset. Maybe it's different display panel suppliers?

        • Gurm replied to this.
          2 months later

          diop Right now my only safe gaming console is a decade old Wii which is still going strong for now

          What about the PS3? I found out some games are perfectly usable for hours while others induce eye strain very quickly, almost immediately. It's the games! Game-specific eye strain.

          Gurm Can you rule out game-specific eye strain on the Switch?

          • JTL replied to this.

            KM @Gurm Can you rule out game-specific eye strain on the Switch?

            Although I've never used a Switch it seems very likely to me that this could be related to recent Nvidia GPU issues.

            • Gurm replied to this.

              JTL I believe it is.

              @KM I don't think it's per game, although some are definitely worse than others, just puttering around in the settings is mildly unpleasant. I will tell you that on the XBox One it is 100% game dependent.

              • KM likes this.
              7 months later

              I recently played Switch with my son at an electronics store and can confirm that it did not cause eye strain.

              Not sure if this was an old Switch or if they fixed the GPU issues somehow.
              Anyone here with a newer Switch who could share some experience? (thought already of buying one for my son and myself...)

              Edit:
              Ok, seems there is more info coming from this thread as well: https://ledstrain.org/d/358-xbox-one/28

                10 days later

                deepflame I bought a switch for my kids. I found it caused me immediate eye strain. My model was bought 4 months ago.

                  jasonpicard thanks for the info. Guess I need to find something second hand locally then. Will you keep the Switch for your kids or would you return it.
                  I have kids myself and I am not sure if the stuff that I experience does not also influence them in a way and I do not want them to have any long term health issue because they are still growing up...

                    deepflame Knock on wood, my brother seems quite happy starting at his HP Zbook 15" with a low end TN panel with awful viewing angles, uneven brightness and awful ~200hz PWM flicker for 8 hours a day.

                    deepflame It can be docked and I have no issue with it on the plasma TV. My kids have no issues with the screens. My kids mostly play PS4 so the switch doesn't get much use.

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