AGI That was a long time ago. I now have less problems from fluorescent lights with the special medicine I mentioned.

I still have them but I suspect I scratched the darker glasses by accident 🙁

AGI I have some cheap blue light-blocking UVEX glasses and wonder what the Theraspecs differ by. Do they contain more than one filter or just a longpass one? Has anyone tried to look at what light they actually let pass, using a spectrometer? Thanks.

Something to try at some point. Unfortunately I don't have a spectrometer.

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Gurm I have other mechanisms for dealing with lights

Which other mechanisms? Simply avoiding using "bad" lamps? Thanks.

@Gurm @JTL How about reading on paper wearing the Theraspecs? Is it pleasant? It certainly depends also on the brightness in the room, but I wonder how much light is blocked by the filter (multiple filters?)?

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    AGI My "other mechanisms" involve a wonderful green leafy canopy above my head, courtesy of IKEA, and a stupid-looking visor on my head courtesy of Microsoft.

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      Gurm Wow, then if you add a fake palm tree, you will feel like on a tropical beach, have you tried? :-)
      Jokes apart, on top of those tricks do you wear Theraspecs glasses? I did not try with a wide-brim hat, but what I noticed, and my spectrometer confirmed, is that even if I turn the closest ceiling lamp off I still get harmful light from the other lamps a couple of meters away. Even if I have a a window wall on one side which is closer to my desk than the other lamps, the brightest features the spectrometer shows are from the fluorescent tubes :-(

      Wrap7c uses the Ventus frame by 7Eye. Tint is nothing special from my understanding. Has the number 47 in it I think. it's pinkish again I think. Search Google for florescent lights and migraines. It should show up.

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        Wrightpt1 Thanks. $189 for the indoor glasses and $339 for the indoor&outdoor. That sounds expensive if it is just a filter. I will dig into it and see if I can get something similar by an optician where I live.
        Just one further question. What do you mean with "47"?

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          AGI It's the tint. Theraspecs are nothing special, they're just high-quality tinted glasses. 47 is the color number - there are lots of others. There are green ones for people who work with LED grow lights all day, and red ones for people who work with medical lasers. They all have tint numbers.

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            Gurm It's the tint. Theraspecs are nothing special, they're just high-quality tinted glasses. 47 is the color number - there are lots of others. There are green ones for people who work with LED grow lights all day, and red ones for people who work with medical lasers.

            Do you know what the tint is supposed to do? An optometrist proposed me a solution which costs ~ $ 400 with a basic frame: Nikon lenses cutting blue light with the possibility of adding a tint and maybe a transition to sunglasses. The lenses look completely different from the crappy orange googles I had purchased for 10 bucks on Amazon. They appear very clear, so I guess the mechanism by which they filter the blue is different (probably some anti-reflective coating). The guy recommended a pink tint, however, he was unable to provide a plausible scientific/technical reason for the choice. I thanked and said I will think about it.
            I then read the article posted by @tfouto

            tfouto Anyone tried those glasses? They are pink tint.

            I am curious about them.

            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2701948/

            I really do not get from the shown transmission curves of the pinky and gray lenses why one or the other would work better against fluorescent light. They do not seem to target any specific wavelength. Does anyone know?
            Do they just help photophobic patients, who benefit from reduced light intensity being still able to read clearly, or patients with...what was it called, Irlen syndrome?
            I will visit an eye doctor, possibly tomorrow, to get her/his opinion too, but any thought/insight is appreciated. Given how vulnerable to fluorescent light my eyes have become, I am tempted to purchase but I would not want to spend half a grand on something useless. Thanks!

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              AGI There are new lenses that block a LOT of blue light. One has an orange tint because the material itself is orange. The other is clear. The materials themselves block blue light, not a coating or special layer but the actual polymers used. This is next-gen lens tech, it will be on my next set of lenses.

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                Gurm Thanks. Looks like you too are recommending them. Can you use them nicely to read on paper or on screen for extensive time?
                My concerns are:

                • I have not understood if flickering from fluorescent lamp is my problem. If different wavelengths flicker differently and the blue flickers more, then those glasses could help. Otherwise I am skeptic.
                • The light getting in from the side and the top. I was not shown laser-safety-googles-like frames, at least by that optician

                15 years ago I was recommended some neutral lenses with anti-reflective coating to eliminate glare from monitors and to not get bored by lights from other cars while driving, but later on a different optometrist told me they were useless. And that is what I thought too pretty much.
                Everything is now so expensive, from mobile phones to lenses. Screening options out is really difficult from a technical and a cost standpoint :-(

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                  AGI I just don't know if they help with the blue light, but reading with them is fine - either the clear OR the orange, which your brain gets used to pretty quickly. Light from the sides is always going to be problematic. Honestly, bad lighting is the devil.

                  So here's the problem. I know that "all fluorescent lights" isn't my problem, because I still have zero problems in well lit areas that rely heavily on fluorescents. And CCFL monitors are fine. And CCFL's in my house are fine. That isn't the issue, clearly. But it is for some people - I can't speak for you, or to your situation. We are all different, although we are here for similar issues (or the same issue) our triggers are all different. In my case, "new" fluorescents are the problem. Old shitty ones never bothered me and still don't. In the case of these modern ones, the spectrum of light and/or flicker are definitely the issue - probably my eyes were fine with obvious 60-cycle flicker but have a problem with high-cycle flicker, or the "ultra broad spectrum light" (which is VERY blue-heavy), or both. But as before, your mileage may vary significantly.

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                    Gurm Thanks. Same here. In the apartment I am renting I found fluorescent lamps. They look an old type. They do not bother me at all. At work everything is new. The buildings are from 2015 and there are only modern forms of lightning. If you read my post of sometime ago on another thread, I can tolerate some fluorescent lamps, whereas others are a killer. I looked at them with a spectrometer, and can't find a difference in the spectra. So I suspect ballasts/flicker frequencies. But I have no proof, cause I am unable to measure the pulsing of the light. Same for LEDs, although here my range of tolerance becomes narrower.
                    Uh, I probably have no chance but to try those lenses. I visited an eye doctor for the third time in 2 months. Same clinic but doctors change. Even this one could not find anything wrong with my eyes. They are not even dry. He said there is no scientific evidence those tinted glasses work, but I am free to spend my money if I want. He also said he has no clue why I get spasms and sore eyes under certain lighting. There are no studies and he cannot refer me to any specialist (I inquired about a neurologist), cause there are no specialists. There are only people showing symptoms but no clue why they occur. That was his summary. He concluded inviting me to turn off bad lamps or stay away. As if I could. So frustrating.

                    Those theraspec seem really expensive. Wonder if they're any different than the myriad of tinted glasses on the market. They look really similar to the uvex sct-vermillion tint, which only costs like 12 dollars for a piece of mil spec ballistic eyewear. Interesting to just get a number of different tints and play around with them to see if they have any effect.

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