Lenovo T470s 1080p non glossy = OK

Maxx

I wonder why there is no progress here at all. Nobody seems to have found any devices that are OK. Well, now I can report that I have. I got a new laptop at work, the Lenovo T470s and after using it 3 months, I can confirm that it does not give me eye strain. Based on my own tests with a DSLR, it does not seem to have PWM. The display adapter processor is pretty low power HD 520, so this could be one reason why it does not irritate the eyes as several other laptops with HD 620 and 630 have produced eye strain, even when they have not had PWM.

I have no idea why this is the case, but finally there is one laptop that does not produce eye strain, from these more recent laptops. The previous that didn't was a Lenovo T420 but that needed to be on 100% brightness to disable the PWM.

I really wonder why this topic does not gain any momentum globally. Every day I see people in meetings - they come in with clear white eyes, but after staring a 240Hz PWM television for a couple of hours, they have bloodshot eyes (Like I have). I see this more and more. Eye doctors just brush this off as dry eyes, Yes, could be that dry eyes are a factor here, but I think the dryness is a result of the PWM instead of the cause of the bloodshot eyes.

This is clear in my case at least, since I've had this problem for 25 years and if I have a display that does not flicker, I have no problems with bloodshot eyes or any irritation. Once there is a PWM or some dithering or some such, my eyes become irritated instantly.

It is worrisome that many mobile phone manufacturers are moving to OLED screens now as those at the moment all have PWM of 240Hz and are unusable to us who are sensitive to flicker. I fear that soon there will be no smartphone that would be usable for me.

Gurm

Honestly if I have the right combination of drivers and OS, brand new Dell laptops are ok for me too if they have the matte 1080p screen. I have a latitude e7490 that's tolerable with the right Windows 10 and some downgraded Intel drivers... I think that the hardware is getting back to the land of reasonability. If very slowly.

Sunspark

My work laptop is a Lenovo T480 with Windows 10 LTSB 2016 (not 15) on it (will likely be incremented this year). The screen is a bottom tier trash 1366x768 matte screen which I do not like using because of the resolution and because it's washed out, and in all likelihood probably does have a little pwm in it, etc. However, at the office I use this laptop with the usb hub on which I have a displayport cable connected to a displayport monitor at work (Samsung S24E650, matte screen) and I can use it just fine all day in that configuration. It's not as nice on the HDMI port and the VGA port on the hub is really bad so it's displayport all the way for me on that thing. So I suppose it's nice it works that far. I made a note of the video driver version # in it as well just in case. Downside of course is, the whole point of a laptop is for it to be portable not to always be used as a fixed PC (I usually just use Citrix when I am at home instead of bringing home the laptop). I wouldn't buy this laptop for myself, it's ridiculous that if I want to plug things into it I pretty much have to use a hub, but it does work.

All of the S24C650 versions were good at the office, and the initial release of the S24E650 as well, but I did notice some replacements came with different panels that were not as nice, so there is a risk of the panel lottery with this monitor as well.