I spoke to my vision therapist and opthomologist and he warned me that nuerolenses are no different than prism lenses. They are overcharging you for their "proprietary" diagnosis tool and then upselling you the product.

You can get prism added to lenses at any eyeglass maker for FAR cheaper, and any optometrist can do a detailed exam to determine if prism is needed. I paid a $20 medical copay for my 2 hour exam, and $45 to have my lenses made. Unfortunatly they made no difference in my symptoms.

    ensete

    Have you given your eyes enough time to adjust to the prisms?

    I suspect the neurolens will give you a more accurate prism rx.

      22 days later

      I just got my Neurolens yesterday. I was shocked at how the dimension of objects was so different. The instrument cluster in my vehicle is angled… didn't know that.

      Today… After working 12 hours at my computer at work,, I am a bit fatigued and feel like I have a ghosting effect on everything I look at. Plan to call tomorrow to see if this is something that will pass.

        Tmeinke

        Do you have to use the Neurolens all day or only in front of the computer / TV etc..?

        How do you feel if you work 12 hours on that computer without the Neurolens?

          11 days later

          Tmeinke Plan to call tomorrow to see if this is something that will pass.

          Wonder if it ever passed for you?

            23 days later

            I have a Neurolens appointment on Wednesday. I will be getting them and reporting on my experience and the lenses fully. It might a few weeks after the appointment though to get the lenses.

              degen

              Nice, I hope this works and becomes your solution. I come to this forum every couple of days and hope someone else found something that works for them!

              If your optometrist decides you are a candidate, it would be helpful to post your measurements here (if you don't mind). I think it'd help compare with others.

              I plan to visit a Neurolens provider once I get the COVID booster.

                  5 days later

                  I've been reading a lot of positive (anecdotal) experiences about the Neurolenses on Reddit and such. They can correct vertical heterophoria as well. I've read they take up to a few weeks to get used to.

                  They seem to help a lot of people. I really hope it's you! Because they are prism, I read they can make the "floor" look weird at first, almost like you're moving up/down when you are not.

                  Hoping they work well for you!

                  Just to add my experience -

                  I tried Neurolens for about 3 months. The first 2 weeks were rough, they were uncomfortable to wear and made my eyes feel slightly water-y. I did get used to them, and they were totally comfortable to wear about 3 weeks in. They helped with my general eye strain, but I didn't notice any improvement with flicker. I noticed that my eyes were less tired at the end of the day, but nothing super dramatic. I'd definitely recommend trying them if your doctor says you're a candidate though.

                    bkdo Do you still wear / use them? Neurolens is basically just a prism, what @martin has. In his case, prism helped but wasn't enough, he needs vision therapy as well.

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                        ryans

                        I ended up returning them because the slight benefits were not worth the extra cost ($650) in my situation. If they actually helped with the flicker, I definitely would've kept them though.

                          ryans

                          He diagnosed exophoria.

                          Here is my Neurolens reading:

                          Neurolens value: 1.4 BI [base in] (0.75 each eye)

                          They wouldn’t give me the readout to keep but the picture they showed me indicated that I look far beyond the content I’m looking at, especially while doing close work. When I asked him about this he agreed with my saying “convergence excess” (Edit: This doesn’t make sense, see my next post)

                          @martin

                          I would appreciate your thoughts on this.

                          This seems like a couple of different problems.

                          Edit: See my next post in this thread for additional information on whether I have convergence insufficiency vs excess.

                              degen Thanks for reporting back. I think this is the opposite problem @martin has; you have exophoria and he has esophoria. I hope it will make a difference for you! When will get you the lenses? Were you able to try anything in office?

                              Does he think this will help with your symptoms?

                                  ryans

                                  I don’t understand how I could have convergence excess based on the diagram I was shown. I thought looking past the image like I saw is convergence insufficiency. I really wish I had a print out of my Neurolens reading to refer to.

                                  Maybe there was a miscommunication and I have insufficiency. I will call and sort it out tomorrow.

                                  The Neurolens screen said “EXO” as well, I remember. I think I can be confident that the Neurolens technology itself at least diagnosed exophoria.

                                  I am unsure about convergence now as diagram is showed me was seems consistent with convergence insufficiency, not excess as he said.

                                      degen You don't have convergence excess based on the Neurolens reading, probably there was a miscommunication. Looking too far is exophoria / convergence insufficiency. I've been hearing from many folks on Reddit that these were a huge help, hoping it works well for you.

                                      Your prism prescription isn't that large, but according to Neurolens, the amount of prism correction required is not correlated with the severity of the symptoms.

                                          ryans

                                          That makes sense. Thank you.

                                          For interest sake, here is my diagnoses from an optometrist who did visual therapy (unfortunately I did not engage his services). It looks like he got it right. From back in 2014:

                                            20 days later
                                            10 days later

                                            I've had Neurolens glasses for almost a year now. They've helped adequately. My eye doctor also has an eye therapy program that's an alternative to the glasses. I wonder if anybody has done that therapy program?

                                            Before the glasses my symptoms were eye strain/pain, dry eyes, baggy eyes, neck and shoulder pain. The glasses have brought them symptoms down to a 1 or 0. I'm glad people are able to see past their marketing and how new they are to the market, but I've seen great improvements with the glasses. And the "contoured" part is really nice to have, as I can focus better on close, medium, and distance things depending on where I look through the lenses, further reducing strain.

                                              dev