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DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs super informative, thank you very much. Based on your points, I'm leaning towards the display just being different than my work monitor as opposed to external factors. I will say my work environment is brightly lit, both with natural light and ceiling lighting (while my home setup is pretty dim), but the symptoms at home were so severe that I feel like it has to be the monitor itself.

This is also both frustrating and concerning, as my current monitor is from 2008 and if it craps out, I don't have a backup. I guess I'll have to keep searching..

Seagull yeah it's the same work laptop. Next time I'm in the office, I'm going to check the monitor settings to see if there's anything different with the contrast or something, but it's probably the default settings

Hello,

I have been going into the office recently and I was happy to find that I'm able to use the monitors there with no issue: https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/ebb9558

I thought oh why don't I buy one for my home, because my current monitor is incredibly old and these newer monitors tend to make me sick, so I bought a used/refurbished one on Amazon.

I received it and set it up yesterday, and felt symptoms within minutes. I thought this was insane as it's the same monitor from work, so I tried to push through and the symptoms got worse.

Does anyone know why the exact same monitor I can tolerate at work is causing me to feel sick at home? Is it possible that the company I bought it from off Amazon (a small used computer store) replaced the panel/backlight with a different one? Or does the lighting matter - my office is brightly lit while my home is more dim. This is both baffling and frustrating for me.

DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs that's interesting, especially the portrait/landscape difference. I wish everyone's experiences weren't so different as that makes it much more difficult to diagnose and look into proper solutions, if any exist. Unfortunately I feel like I'm more on the extreme end of symptoms compared to others. I have not found a phone past 2018 that I'm able to use.

Hi all, I know everyone's eye strain issue is relatively unique and these issues are very difficult to diagnose, but just wanted to get people's opinion on this as I'm stumped.

At home, I've been using a very old monitor, a display that both appears to flicker from PWM and also has FRC (which I assume causes dithering). This screen is fine for me and I've been using it for over a decade: https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/71b5755

I've recently started to go into my work office as they've mandated us to come in twice a week. Luckily, the monitor I use there doesn't give me any issues. It appears to be flicker free, and is true 8-bit: https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/ebb9558

After seeing how I could deal with that monitor, I thought I could replace my old home monitor with something newer. I found a Dell monitor with similar specs, flicker free and true 8 bit: https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/97f7212e

Within seconds of using it, I started to feel all the symptoms quickly. Dizziness, headaches, motion sickness - the symptoms came on very quickly and were pretty intense. I ended up returning the monitor this morning.

I'm wondering a couple things:

1. Why is my work monitor okay for me, while the new monitor was horrible? I compared the specs and one thing that stood out was the work monitor has dynamic contrast, does that factor in?
2. Why is my old home monitor not causing symptoms? It has PWM and uses FRC, it seems like on paper it should be horrible for me

For reference, my work laptop uses an integrated Intel GPU and my home laptop has a discrete Nvidia GPU (but is very old and outdated).

Any thoughts would be appreciated, thank you if you've read all of this!

AGI thanks! Yeah I'm being very cautious with my optimism, I understand nothing is guaranteed, but I'm glad I'm at least taking some sort of action on finding/resolving the root cause. If this doesn't work then I'll have to look further into this see-sick syndrome

ryans interesting, would vision therapy help to correct this?

I have many issues with screens giving me motion sickness, and I saw a COVD optometrist recently and she diagnosed me with convergence insufficiency. She's putting together a visual therapy plan for me and I'm hoping we can fix this (and fix my issues with screens)

GZunit did it help?

JRUK notebookcheck might be wrong, but I also think PWM is just one of many possible culprits for causing people strain (with everyone being different). I suspect something Apple is doing with iOS is a big factor in causing people issues.

hayder1983 just my personal experience, my friend got a Samsung QLED tv which is an IPS miniLED panel and it was giving me headaches, but I changed the settings that reduced the flicker and it was fine for me after that. My brother in law has an LG OLED and the TV is fine for me. The rtings.com website is good to see if it's flicker free or not.

Xiaomi 12T and 12T Pro measured at 1920hz PWM on DXOMark

https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-12t-display-test/

https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-12t-pro-display-test/

hayder1983 have you tried an LG OLED tv?

Has anyone here tried the iPhone 14 (non-Pro)? Seems like everyone is trying the Pro or Pro Max version, but notebookcheck shows the regular 14 has a steady flicker rate that matches the screen refresh rate

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-iPhone-14-smartphone-review-Small-upgrades-for-the-Apple-phone.661760.0.html

hayder1983 same deal for me, my OnePlus 6T has an AMOLED screen with 240hz PWM and I have no issues with it. Every other AMOLED/OLED screen is unusable for me. I've been using the 6T for over 4 years lol

Not sure how accurate this is, but it sounds like the Samsung E6 mobile displays will have a 2160 hz PWM rate: https://www.samnews24.com/2022/08/26/samsung-e6-2k-flexible-screen-may-land-in-all-new-flagships-of-snapdragon-8-gen2/

CorvusCorax where are you seeing above 700hz PWM?

Has anyone tried any of the ROG phones?

francerex I remember you said it wasn't too bad and you were waiting to see if it would get worse.. sounds like it got worse

What phone did you go back to?