Yeah, it will be great if there is a version of MSI afterburner for general purpose, not just for gaming.

AgentX20 Definitely, they changed something. They even changed it mid-generation for the 9x0, since some brand new 970's are no good for me in exactly the same way.

    6 days later

    anyone tried the SLI/crossfire technology for dual graphics cards?

    AgentX20 I have had problems with lcd/led monitors for several years and some have been better and others worse.
    I know that PWM has been one of the causes of my problems.
    But despite that most of today's monitors are flicker-free, i have still more or less got problems.
    Previously, i have not thought about the video card can cause problems.
    But a few days ago i sold my 980ti and started to use the integrated graphics card (Intel HD520)
    and to my surprise, i do not get sore eyes anymore.
    My eyes have not felt as good as they do now since the time when CRT monitors existed.
    The monitor i use is an Asus MG248Q 144hz and to my eyes it is definitely the best lcd/led monitor I've ever tried (and I have tested many monitors from different manufacturers over the years).
    Before i bought this screen i had a Dell u2515h, but i was forced to run F.lux and even turn the brightness down to the lowest setting.
    But despite those measures, i still had a little trouble with the eyes.

    Another thing that was strange, i got alot more trouble if I used displayport connector on the 980ti.
    It was like the signal became more oversteering than it was through the HDMI-connection.
    I tryed to run calibration patterns from the AVS 709 calibration disc and there was actually a difference between HDMI and DisplayPort.
    When i drove through the displayport it was almost hopeless to get the right balance between brightness and contrast, but through HDMI it was no problem at all.
    One thing is clear and that is that something is not quite as it should be with current Nvidia cards :-/

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      So AgentX20, Gurm, and Jimbo66 have all confirmed problems with new Nvidia cards. Not looking good.

        degen Have the correct ICC profiles been loaded for thier monitors?

          I cannot confirm that they were, but ... never needed to be, before.

            Gurm I never have either, until I checked, and it has pretty much cured my symptoms with my most troublesome setup. Try it out

              It has made Win10 Anniversary BETTER but not perfect. I don't have problems with Windows 7, usually. Early Windows 10 I have to try troublesome hardware. I'll give it a shot.

              a month later

              Wrightpt1 That's the one I've seen that has ZERO problems for me. My son's friend has it. It is sadly one of the pricier ones.

                  Gurm I just wanted to be sure that all the 970's by MSI were okay as some mentioned those by EVGA may not be. I am going for the best priced MSI 970 I can find. thank you for confirming that the 970 MSI is okay. I currently have an EVGA brand card.

                    I found EVGA to not work well. I also tried Zotac. But both were "end of generation" 970's, of the bargain variety. The MSI's are more expensive and presumably better built and "first generation".

                    My 'good' 970 is a gigabyte g1 gaming edition. I reckon you want to find an older 970 card.

                    Great input.

                    There seem to be two versions with very similar specs. Any thoughts would be better or which is older/first generation? There seems to be a limited edition and a non limited edition. the limited edition def. looks older.

                    https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-GTX-970-4G/dp/B00NN0GEXQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1492379654&sr=1-1&keywords=msi+gtx+970 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TPLKR7Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=A1ED2U6E9G3YVQ&th=1

                    I assume nothing refurbished is satisfactory as well.

                    I use a Gigabyte GT 420 video card and get zero symptoms. No gamer

                    5 months later

                    JTL Yes I know. I'd hoped that being a 9-series it would be more 970 than 1070.

                    Sadly it wasn't to be. Thing is, looking around I cannot see anything concrete on chipset versions/revisions/tweaked models to explain why not all 970s are the same, or why there is this apparent difference between the 970 I have and use happily, and my 980Ti.

                    It's maddening. Maybe the new AMD chipsets are OK? (Apart from power consumption).

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                        AgentX20 My current goal is to compare the VBios version of a "good" card to a "bad" card. Bonus points if they are the same sub version/branding (ie, someone has a MSI whatever 970 that's "good" and another MSI whatever 970 that's "bad"

                          On a whim, anyone use any recent NVIDIA Quadro cards?

                          This is because many of them have more display outputs, and I might look into multiple monitors in the future.

                          Second of all I'm seriously looking into a Dell UP3017 (2560x1600 IPS that can supposedly do 10-bit color without dithering, and GT(X) series don't do 10-bit output, and I am a photographer)

                          Gaming isn't important to me

                          • No PWM according to Dell support I've talked to.
                          • Uses GB-R backlight so it's not as blue as white/blue LED backlights (explanation here)
                          • Supports calibration in hardware itself with the X-Rite calibrators, think it mitigates the need for an ICC profile.

                          I can get it from a local store with a 1 month return policy for $1450 CAD but want to get my GPU situation sorted out before hand.

                            dev