AGI Thanks.

Happy to help!

AGI But which is the dominant eye? How do I know?

I you Google that, you will find some explanations/examples to find out which eye is your dominant.

AGI Also, have you ever tried other exercises before the patch solution, such as exercises with loose prisms?

I live in Sweden, as my orthoptist told me - “in Sweden we don’t believe in exercises, just glasses”. I have tried some exercise a bit that i found on the net, but didn’t think it got better. I think covering one eye is an exercise! I have tried some glasses with prism, but it was only a waste of money.

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And people are wearing eyepatches with their glasses on or just closing one eye?

I tried this last night again but its difficult for me to use my glasses with the patch.

Also, it seems when I have one eye open / covered - and its the same with each eye, my glasses dont work well.

Together (both eyes open) I can see fine with my glasses, but I close one eye (either) and it gets a bit blurrier.

I dont know if this is expected but it makes it hard to use the path.

Perhaps I need another eye test.

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    I've tried the eye tracking exercises prescribed to me by an orthoptist many times in the past with no success. Then one day, inspired by reading your posts here I tried a slightly modified version of the prescribed exercise. I took a wooden medical spatula and drew a dot at the top. Then I cut out a piece of card 5cm by 5cm or so. I placed the card about 6inches in front of my left (non-dominant eye) then held the spatula 12 inches away and going from left to right and back back again I tracked the dot. As the dot went behind the card (obscured for my left eye but not the right) I could feel my left eye muscles contract and as it passed back into full view of both eyes they would relax again. I repeated this a couple of dozen times a day.

    So, here's crazy thing, this has massively reduced my eye strain to the point where I almost never have problems anymore. I appreciate the exercise I've described sounds odd and that it certainly wont work for everyone but I can confirm that it genuinely worked for me. I've gone from life ruining eye strain to almost issue free.

    So, I just wanted to share my experience in the hope that maybe it will work for others and to say thanks Mike! If it hadn't been for your posts here I would never have found the solution that finally worked for me.

      Monte

      Wow, this i just fantastic! Really good news, so happy to hear about your progress.

      I hope someone else will try your exercise … (i should ping 10+ users here)

      @martin what do you think of this exercise?

      HAL9000 I wear it under my glasses lense. It took about a week for the blurry vision you described to go away, and for the ability to regain clear site immediately after removing the path as well.

      Monte So, here's crazy thing, this has massively reduced my eye strain to the point where I almost never have problems anymore. I appreciate the exercise I've described sounds odd and that it certainly wont work for everyone but I can confirm that it genuinely worked for me. I've gone from life ruining eye strain to almost issue free.

      I'll give that a shot. I have a whole case of vision therapy equipment I could use for an exercise like that

      HAL9000 Together (both eyes open) I can see fine with my glasses, but I close one eye (either) and it gets a bit blurrier.

      Also, I noticed that if I close one eye, I get significantly LESS relief than wearing an eyepatch over an open eye.

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        Monte could you please describe it more in my email? I want to make a post about it on my blog heteroforie.webnode.cz, as it will eventually get lost here. Thank you

        Monte Maybe I am asking too much, but if you still have the "tools" in question at hand and you could take a photo / give a pictorial description of what you did, that would be great.

        Especially, there is one point I am not getting. Did your eyes' muscles relax when both eyes were at work or vice versa? I would expect that, if your problem was BVD, the tension decreased when you used only one eye. Can you shed light? I am probably misinterpreting your words.

        Anyhow, impressive and encouraging result! Cheers.

        @mike @Monte Have you guys ever had issues with non-incandescent bulbs / lighting at all? Any eyestrain, neck pain, dizziness, any sort of discomfort triggered quickly by solely sitting under modern lighting? Thanks.

          AGI

          Some years ago (before one-eye-training) i had problems with a new restaurant and a store, they had some kind of new led-lighting. At the restaurant I got tension headache and my eyes was hurting so i had to leave after approximately one hour. Also had some problems with newer cars as a passenger without looking at screens.

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          To find your dominant eye, just point to something with your finger about ten feet away, like a door knob, with both eyes OPEN, then keep your finger there, and close your right eye, then your left eye. Now which eye keeps the finger on the door knob? That's your dominant eye. You can also make a circle with your hand, and try to center the door knob with both eyes OPEN, then close each eye and see which eye keeps the door knob in the center of the circle. Hope that explains it.

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            Would wearing an eye patch all day help? It definitely reduces eye strain when looking at a problematic phone. I put the patch over my glasses when using my phone for a few minutes. I'm wondering if I just walk around with the eye patch on the whole day, would it cure the problem entirely? I don't know if there's any side effects to this long term.

            Also, since the eye patch seems to reduce the eye strain when using the phone, does this mean I have Binocular Vision Dysfuction? Or is it just the phone itself causing the problem?

              Monte could you please explain it in a youtube video or something? Im sure everyone would be very greatful of you if you did

              John615 Also, since the eye patch seems to reduce the eye strain when using the phone, does this mean I have Binocular Vision Dysfuction?

              It is very possible you have a BVD that becomes worse ("decompensates") when present a digital device.

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              ensete Also, I noticed that if I close one eye, I get significantly LESS relief than wearing an eyepatch over an open eye.

              Is that because the patch blocks the light stimulus more efficiently than the closed eye?

              Not exactly the same scenario, but check this video out (I found it on https://mindeye.com/traumatic-brain-injury/). The patient struggles carrying out exercises when his closed eyes are exposed to a light source. Go to 7:16 if you don't want to watch the whole thing.

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              Hi @mike Your story as I understand sounds so similar to mine. My issues with screens started after having lazer surgery and i am really struggling these days with all types of screens. However, using my E-ink monitor is alot better (not great but better) and helps me get through the work day. Is E-ink and maybe even RLCD also better for you? I also attend VT and have been diagnosed with convergence insuffiency. Sadly, i have been doing this for 6 months now but without see any real improvement.

                CrestfallDreaming Interesting to read your story, and especially the part with laser surgery.

                To the big question, have you tried covering/patching one eye?

                  @"mike"

                  Again, sorry I dont think I'm doing this correctly. Is it possible we get a topic posted with the exact insturctions of what you're doing for the patching training? - something 'locked' that just has the instructions? Is it simply a case of covering the dominant eye so the other eye works harder and then using a device that causes issues for a few minutes each day, increasing each day?

                  Or is it the other way round, only using the dominant eye?

                  Or do you do both? train the weaker eye then the dominant eye?

                  When I patch my right eye, which seems to be the dominant eye - if I point to something and alternately close my eyes the item I am ponting at is always there when I use my right eye only, so my left eye is not dominant.

                  Or if i do something like this test:

                  https://www.verywellhealth.com/how-to-determine-eye-dominance-3421648

                  The object will remain 'there' when I only have my right eye open, closed it 'moves' / I cannot see it.

                  If I patch with my right eye so only using the left eye I can tell there is a difference, it causes me some headache pain in general and I also see what looks like TV static. - I have not tried looking at 'problem' devices yet though as I had to take a break from testing my graphics card as the constant migraine and daily pain got too much for me.

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                    mike i have tried and it surely makes a difference. If i use both eyes text sometimes get blurry. However eye by eye the text isnt, so i am sure i have issues with convergence. Sadly i Also struggle with dry eye and i dont know if my dry eye is solely due to my convergence issue or “just” a side effect of the surgery.

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