One-Eye-Success for 10+ users on LEDStrain

arturpanteleev

When you started your exercise, do you had any strain or headache while you are looking at the phone with 1 eyes? or you strarted to feel good?

Another question - do you try your methods with laptop or only phone?

mike

arturpanteleev Sorry for late answer, been working long days (behind my screens).

When I started training I didn’t understand that this training was going to work. Less headache, but my eyes was still strained, after some weeks I could see results that the training worked.

alie

henno I have the same 2013 MBP but we do not get software update anymore. Could you find anything newer with no problem?

ensete

I'm happy to report my patching has continued to work, and has improved my overall ability to withstand Windows 10 dramatically. It;s been around 2 years now and I intend to keep it up.

Liberator005

ensete

Do you patch both eyes alternatively or only one ? If one, is it the stronger or weaker ?

Do you always use the pc while patching or can you use it without ?

mazury

bkdo It's been over a year, did you do vision therapy? I read that you started to wear prisms in that time and they improved symptoms for you. However I think that for CI vision therapy is the first thing that one should be doing, and only if that fails, then consider prisms. Or prisms + vt simultaneously. Because in CI they don't cure the cause, just relieve the symptoms? It's different with divergence insufficiency I think.

bkdo

mazury

Hey, I did do vision therapy for about 3-4 months. I did it myself at home for about an hour a day. I unfortunately didn't see any noticeable improvements, so I stopped, since the time investment was getting to be a bit much. My prism lenses have also stopped providing enough relief, so I'm stuck with my old prescription.

I did see a Dr. Debby trained specialist and am getting new prescription glasses within 1-2 weeks. Literally putting all my hopes on them at this point.

mazury

@mike I'm also having symptom relief when using patching. I've tried patching once already, about month ago, but I wasn't noticing any change. I gave it one more chance yesterday and I noticed that with one eye patched (no matter which eye) I can look at the screen with 40% brightness on my laptop, whereas before it had to be almost 0% (had to use additional screen dimmer to go below default minimum). It doesn't affect my other symptom, which is "eyes being out of sync/misaligned" feeling, but it does lower the pain when looking at screen. Pretty good news and interseting finding I would say.

UPDATE: after 3 days of patching, new kind of pain is occuring in eye that is looking at the screen, so this is not a solution for me, I'm stopping it for now, maybe will come back to it later…

ryans

bkdo Hey, I did do vision therapy for about 3-4 months. I did it myself at home for about an hour a day.

Did you do this with an optometrist or just self-guided? I think with our condition, the VT needs to be under a specialist to be successful.

bkdo My prism lenses have also stopped providing enough relief,

This could be "eating" the prism. Over time, sometimes the eyes/brain need stronger and stronger prism.

mazury

ryans I agree with eating the prisms, but only when the condition is CI, for DI it's actually helpful, that's what I read in "clinical management of binocular vision". And I think @martin had success with prisms, but he also had DI. It's important to get the diagnosis right at first.

bkdo

ryans

I used my Kaiser optometrist/opthalmologist's exercises and did them at home, they took about an hour a day and I didn't really see any relief, unfortunately.

Yeah, from what I was told, relief with brand new prism lenses usually last about a month, then you'll need recalibration. Then, your prescription can change year-to-year. It's frustrating 😞

arturpanteleev

mike thank you! I tried to do patching a few times, but every time quit halfway through. Gonna do another trying

bisk89

Eye patching changed my life. I was so happy, that I can use devices that I cannot from a long time again. But unfortunately something went wrong. I was patching one of my eyes from about a year and recently I think I overloaded my eyes/eye (or maybe my body), got a lot of stress, and lose the ability to use devices to which I got my eyes used by patching. Now I can say, that I’m starting over, somehow I reset my eyes to the stage that I cannot use almost anything at all. The worst part of the problem is that, now the patching wont work at all. I irritate my eyes very quickly, No matter if I’m patching or not. Have any of you had such a problem? Did anyone have to start from scratch? If so, do you have any advice? I'm a little heartbroken because I was able to use all these devices fairly normally and enjoy life in my own way, and now I've lost that opportunity, not knowing why 🙁

ensete

bisk89 Give it time and keep it up. There have been days where patching was less effective but it always came back.

Unfortunately for me there seems to be no improvement of the underlying condition which means I wlil likely be patching for the rest of my life.

AGI

bisk89 Had you got to the point that you "healed" your eyes and could use any screen without patching or did you continuously patch for one year? In the latter case, how many hours per day?

bisk89

AGI I Was at the point where I can, for example, play on my PS5 for one hour without patching at all, after one hour patch one eye for half of an hour, and then play another ~hour without patching, etc. It was like cure for me, cause before I cannot use almost any devices at all. Unfortunately, despite trying and patching, I wasn't able to last longer without patching than 1/1,5 hour in front of a screen. Although, sometimes when i'm drinking alcohol, I was able to last much longer without patching, even 2-3 hours

AGI

bisk89 I see. I too noticed some "relaxation" drinking beer or wine.
Have you seen any eye specialist? Any diagnosis?

Snooper

I started patching a month ago after mike replied to my topic about eyestrain with modern devices. Firstly I couldn’t believe in this and thought that’s bullshit. I tried a few days, but nothing changed. Eyestrain, dry eyes, tinitus and headache as regular. But after a few weeks I felt a huge relief. Now I can use ALL devices with patching my right eye and continue using this method to full recovery.

I want to say @mike thank you. I can’t even describe what I feel. You really saved my life after a 2 years of nightmare.

CrestfallDreaming

Snooper is it your dominant eye you Are patching ?

mike

Snooper I’m glad to be of service 😉

Snooper

CrestfallDreaming I think so, but I don’t know certainly. I did some tests to check which eye is dominant, but different tests give different results. I just try with both eyes and choose patching right, because it’s most comfortable for me.

ensete

mike You literally saved my career.

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