Eye strain with new gpu

JTL

dkaluza19 I'm using propretary drivers since they are recommended by mint's drivers manager. Another thing is that with nouveau drivers I couldn't change refresh rate, the only option is 60Hz while my monitor supports 144Hz. Nvidia drivers allow that.

Newer (as in after GTX 700 series I think) don't support higher performance with the nouveau driver, in part due to NVIDIA themselves causing difficulties with changes in succeeding hardware revisions.

glvn

ludwig

My solution: use hdmi from monitor to motherboard. I use i5 12400. So when u browsing, watching movie it will use igpu. When play game, it will use rtx 3070.

Can you provide the full intel MBoard name and bios version?
OS ver. ?(+build)
intel HD driver version ? display model?

BloodyHell619

A word of caution. I tried the pairing trick with another external gpu becuase someone here and also on reddit told me that this trick also works with another external gpu. I paired my gt 1030 with an rtx 3070ti and not only did I still get strained but now I am getting strained even with my 1030 and any other card I put in my system. I have tried every possible thing I could think of to fix it but I couldn't:

Reinstalling different versions of Windows, trying every dithering disabling app there is out there, installing dozens of different display drives, installing linux, flashing mb bios, flashing gpu vbios, ….

I would advise not using this trick with a system that is working for you plus atleast for me there were alot of downsides: some games kept crashing, some games you couldn't turn on dlss or raytracing, some games flickered …

ludwig

BloodyHell619 my gpu make me eyestrain and i have find a solution. So i buy steam deck and this steam deck very please for my eye, no eyestrain at all. So now i play game pc on my steam deck use moonlight and no eyestrain. I play my ps5 on my steam deck too use chiaki and free eyestrain. I found this is only solution for me

Luminous

I recently bought myself a 1080ti in great condition and was very disappointed after testing it out

I was sure that the old 10xx series video cards don't put a strain on my eyes, but I was wrong

Maybe the 1070ti will be comfortable for my eyes, I will try to sell the 1080ti and buy it .

It's a pity to sell such a great video card

Seagull

Luminous

what were you using before?

I just bought a GTX 1060, but I have the display cables connected to my integrated graphics output. The discrete GPU does all the 3d rendering, sends the frames to my integrated graphics which sends them to my monitor. Something like that might work for you.

Luminous

Seagull

I have previously used gtx 1050ti, 770 and now 1660s, absolutely comfortable to my eyes

Thanks for the info , I will try this when I buy a processor with integrated graphics

Aquila

Any update guys?
Until now for me 2070s (micron) is good on win 1809

I tried the Arc A770 LE and I got terrible migraine.

Hp Pavillion with 1660ti (ddr6 Samsung) seems very good on Win 11 24h2 (no migraine)

Nonus90

tonyhawk99

Thank you for G Sync recommendation. Turning on AMD FreeSync on my monitors and enabling G Sync in NVIDIA Control panel resolved the eye strain issue that I started having after upgrading my PC. It got so bad that I could feel myself running from using PC that I painstakingly assembled for gaming. Now I can use it for hours without problems again.

I think the issue might have something to do with Vertical Band locking that someone mentioned here. I imagine FreeSync/G Sync overrides it.

More details about my case:
Monitors (Stayed the same): Tesla 24MC625BF through DP, those are simple 1080p 60-75Hz "flicker-free" IPS monitors.
Old GPU (no problems): ASUS ROG STRIX GTX 1060 6GB + NVIDIA 532 Drivers + Win10 22H2
New GPU (eye strain): GIGABYTE RTX 4070 TI SUPER + NVIDIA 566.36 Drivers + same Win10 22H2
Note: I had to do clean reinstall of NVIDIA drivers because 532 apparently did not support my new GPU fully.
Symptoms: eye strain, eye redness in the evening (mostly recovers overnight), drowsiness.
What helped: Turning AMD FreeSync on monitors and enabling G-Sync in NVIDIA Control panel.
What did not help: forcing no dithering with novideo sRGB (it was already disabled when I first opened this utility), playing with desktop colors in NCP, setting Nvidia profile exactly as it was on my old PC (through Profile Inspector export - import), setting output dynamic range from full to limited, Output Color Depth adjustment was always unavailable for me (=8 bpc), trying iGPU with reduced "color intensity": the symptoms just turned into headache after ~3 hours with it, changing output cables from DP to HDMI.
Other general methods I use to reduce eye strain: sitting 110cm away from 24" monitor: I can sit closer but I would get eyestrain after couple hours with any monitor and settings, even "good" ones, blue at 0 in monitor OSD settings, f.lux general use 1900K, gaming & movies 2700K, placing PC outside of direct sunshine, semi-transparent drapes to reduce glare, when I had eye infection, I have also used yellow "rainy" driving glasses that help take extra edge off from bright-themed applications and web-pages.

I have had similar issues before when I was upgrading from Win7 to Win10. First time I tried it, my eyes hurt so bad that I abandoned it for another two years. I think it did not even have dark theme at the time, or I couldn't figure how to enable it. Next time I have tried upgrading, it was much better and I got away with reducing blue and digital vibrance in NCP.

Thanks again for all the advice in this forum!

simplex

Nonus90 Tesla 24MC625BF through DP, those are simple 1080p 60-75Hz

If you drive it in 60hz, try to set 75hz and write impressions

Nonus90

Nonus90
I should also probably note how I pick the monitors.
Basically I buy one at retail shop that is lenient with returns, and run it through all of the http://www.techmind.org/lcd/ inversion tests. It does say that every LCD panel is guaranteed to flicker at least on one of the tests, indicating its inversion mode - but in my experience you should not be seeing any strong flickering on any of the inversion tests. A mild "heartbeat" yes, but not flickering or rippling or banding. Any LCD that is violently flickering on any test - would hurt your eyes/head. You can ask clerk to plug monitor into their station before purchase and do the tests in place. I have went through a lot of Philips, Asus and BENQ models in my time, to get the ones that work fine with my eyes. After moving, those Tesla 24 were the winners.

simplex
Yes I settled at 60hz. I've never really used 75HZ, but I will try it during weekends and post an update.

Nonus90

Nonus90
I have tried 75HZ and have not noticed any big difference. Changed it back to 60Hz.
Testing various settings improved eyestrain situation to a point where I can use PC & game for 3-4 hours straight which is enough for me. It still does not feel as comfortable as before while reading text or watching videos, but at least direct purpose of the upgrade, gaming, is fine now. I doubt I'll have any considerable breakthrough in figuring out this issue any further, but I'll post an update if I find out anything else.

Thanks again to all participants of this thread for advice and sharing your experience!

Below are current "good enough" settings:

GPU RTX 4070 Ti Super
Win10 22H2
NVIDIA Driver version: 581.08
NVIDIA Control Panel installed manually through APPX
Dithering disabled with noVideo sRGB tool and clamped (driver reinstall turned it back on)
FreeSync ON on monitors, G-Sync ON for "Windowed and Fullscreen"
VSync in NCP = Adaptive
Monitor OSD: Brightness 80, Contrast 50, Black level 50, Sharpness 2, Picture mode Standard, DCR 2
Using f.lux 2300 during gaming, 1900 during reading, 2700 during video
Found and applied old color profiles from monitors that I no longer own: Philips 234E5:
Further adjusted Color in NCP: All color Channels: Brightness 35, Contrast 35, Gamma 0.95, Digital Vibrance 35
Output Dynamic Range set to Full (reset by driver reinstall), Color Depth: 8 bpc, Color Format: RGB

Aquila

So is the 4070ti safe?

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