Are your strain symptoms better when you have a fever?
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ensete I never considered sinus surgery after witnessing horrible side effects and no results among relatives/friends (those episodes are quite dated and meanwhile there have been technological advances for sure, but the memories are too vivid).
Also, I have had nearly no sinus inflammation for three years now, but my eyestrain has never subsided.
ensete pallete area
Could you please say a bit more about this type of surgery? That is the mouth, right? You mean someone went in to fix something in his palate and came out seeing better?
ryans postural deficiency syndrome
Can you please provide a link? Cheers!
you wont feel anything when your body is working 100% cuz too much blood flow and much nerval messages even if you got stabbed with a knife you wont feel it but once your body get relaxed you will feel every thing so bad
My LED sensitivity also went away recently during the 8 days that I had a recurrent low fever (100-101F) during a very nasty respiratory infection. I don’t know what the virus was - my whole family had it but repeatedly tested negative for Covid and one of us also tested negative for flu and RSV. We heard kids here were showing up at the hospital with similar breathing issues from rhinovirus at the same time, so that’s a possibility.
Before getting sick, I had a little pressure behind my right eye that was residual from too much flicker exposure a few weeks before - a typical long-lasting symptom for me. As the fever started, I felt the flicker head pressure noticeably drain away within several minutes. My head felt unusually clear - all of the flicker-induced brain fog was gone during those 8 days. I was able to use screens without issue throughout the fever for the first time since my flicker sensitivity started in 2018. My inflammatory response was definitely quite active elsewhere in my body during the illness in both expected and unusual ways. I’ve suspected that my flicker head pressure might be due to inflammation, so maybe there was too much else going on during the fever for the inflammatory response to bother with flicker. If the infection hadn’t been unusual and a bit scary, I would have said that my head was better off during a fever than weeks post-flicker exposure. Once the fever broke, the head pressure returned over the next 2 days, with infrequent, strong spikes of pain that were different than anything I’ve experienced before. During those 2 days, I also had trouble getting sufficient blood flow to my brain - I had to lay down with my feet propped up or very actively move my skeletal muscles to promote venous blood return. The rest of my family just had very bad colds without my additional bizarre symptoms- I wonder if/how my over-sensitized system might have played a role in that difference. Luckily I’m back to normal again, but also back to “normal” in terms of being extremely sensitive to flicker.
You likely did have covid, glad you made a recovery. A lot of the RATs aren't working well with the omicron variants, and there's been tips saying to swab the back of your throat, or save the mucus, etc. for the test to help it test +.
I have long-standing sensitivities to VOCs and HAPs (fumes), and if I have a fever I am less sensitive to them. I do have inflammation. I also have some eczema, and if I have a fever the itching stops until the fever goes away.. so..
I noticed the same effect couple of times while I was sick with a fever. I wonder if it was the work of paracetamol or the fever but I believe it was the latter.
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denise_eca Hello, I think it might be connected, as the heat in the body may release the muscle tension in the eyes, which is often the base of our problems. I have recently started going to a sauna regularly and I feel that it also helps with my eyes a lot. However, without the visual therapy I doubt that would really solve anything, as much as it serves as a good reset of the whole system.
Feel free to check my blog, I try to summarize all that helped me there hoping it will help other people too - heteroforie.webnode.cz
martin Thank you Martin. I will check out your blog.
martin the heat in the body may release the muscle tension in the eyes, which is often the base of our problems. I have recently started going to a sauna regularly and I feel that it also helps with my eyes a lot.
I used to do sauna / hammam regularly 10-15 years ago. I never noticed any correlation with my eye problems. Three years ago when my symptoms worsened I went several time to hot springs and did sauna / hammam as well. No change at all in my eye condition. However, about heat, a couple of years ago the acupuncture specialist who was trying to soothe my eye pain suggested applying on my eyes a heat pad for 10-15 minutes to relax the muscles. He recommended a self-heating product I could easily buy at any convenience store. I applied the pad and had considerable discomfort afterwards. I could not move my eyes freely, I developed eyestrain and also my neck began tensing up. I thought I was probably sensitive to the scent the heat pad came with. I never used that product anymore. Last year I saw multiple times a dry eye specialist. She analyzed my meibomian glands. Overall the glands were well but I do not remember if the ones on the upper or the bottom lid were a bit dormant, not secreting enough oil. She applied heat with some special googles for 5-10 minutes. Oil secretion increased and my vision went slightly blurry. I was told that that was normal, but then for many hours I had eyestrain and neck tension. I did not pay much attention to this episode, until the specialist asked me to use a microwavable heat pad daily to enhance oil secretion from the glands. After a couple of applications per day for 2-3 days I got so much eyestrain and discomfort that I could barely do anything. I even returned a brand-new TV thinking that it was the cause of my eye strain :-( Finally, it turned out that the heat pad was the problem. It increased blood flow to my eyes and caused severe inflammation. Since then I have avoided heating up the area around my eyes.
For me, I don’t have any eyestrain or eye muscle involvement in my LED symptoms - and an expert in BVD confirmed today after their specialized exam that I don’t have any binocular vision disorder at all (as expected for me since I don’t have correlating symptoms). I doubt that it was the 1.4 degree increase in body temperature itself that made the pressure in my head from from flicker drain away and not restart during the days with fever. The flicker sensitivity was absent throughout the 8 days that my temperature was going up and down, even in the mornings when my temperature tended to be normal. I think it’s more likely that the complex systemic inflammatory processes started by the fever (changing circulating immune protein levels and immune cell localization, etc) did something to short circuit the pressure in my head caused by flicker. I was very sick and the inflammatory processes due to the illness were very present throughout those 8 days. I guess it’s possible the slight temperature change mattered too, even if the timing of the two didn’t quite match
I’m glad heat might help for some of the people who do have eye muscle symptoms.
Liberator005 that's a very good question. Maybe new generation of monitors etc… affects our nervous system?
Does anyone else whose LED sensitivity goes away during a fever experience unusually bad or strange symptoms when the fever ends?
Twice in the last year I’ve had probably non-Covid viral respiratory infections with multiple days of 100-101F fever. Both times, my LED sensitivity and symptoms went away during the days of fever. Both times when the fever broke, the LED pain/pressure in my right temple came back with much greater intensity than before the fever and my LED sensitivity was greater than before the fever. Strangely, both times when the fever broke I also became scarily lightheaded with brain fog if I didn’t take steps to force extra blood to my brain - elevating my feet above my head or very actively moving so skeletal muscles would assist venous return. The first illness had been 8 days of fever and on top of everything else when the fever broke I’d get periodic brief, intense jabs of pain in the flicker spot in my right temple if I was walking around in the first couple of days (without any flicker stimulus) and the lightheadness/brain fog lasted several days. The second illness wasn’t nearly as bad as the first, had only 3 days of fever, about 40 hours of lightheadedness/brain fog after the fever broke with none of the weird extra jabs of pain.
None of my family members who had the same illnesses experienced these weird post-fever symptoms. Since brain fog is one of my typical LED symptoms and since the extra pain was in the LED spot in my head, I’m wondering if all of this is connected - maybe inflammatory factors shift focus to the infection during the fever and then function extra-aggressively upon shifting focus back to the LED symptom spot.
Has anyone else experienced extra-intense or strange symptoms after a fever breaks?
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I always considered migraines to be a form of inflammatory reaction. If this is or not the case, I'll let the doctors decide.
I have migraines every day (together with light sensitivity) but the moment I have some sort of illness that requires some serious processing from my immune system (a flu, etc), the migraines are off.
Also, if I'm taking anti-inflammatories, migraines are gone.
The way it works with me very strongly reminds me of the "hygiene hypothesis" -- I have an immune system that just has too many soldiers without anything to do most of the time, and unless there's a real crisis needing their use, they'll pick fights here and there just to pass time.
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jen Well, I'll generally not do well after a fever (right now I'm at the tail end of a COVID week). During these periods, I'll ingest inordinate amounts of hot honey + lemon + ginger.
I know my body to be extremely sensitive to daily fluctuations in food intake, so if I "just quit" that drink without having an intermediate period of decreasing dosage (of sugar intake, that is), I'm going to have some terrible migraines!
If this explains what you're feeling or not, that's another question.
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__528491__ I trace to this post from your profile and boy, its strange that there are people with legitimate migraine like I do.
The daily struggles and chores one has to deal with, the dreadfulness of waking up to a feeling of hangover etc. I hardly met anyone with a genuine struggle against migraine nowadays. Migraine is like the new Austism where people are now self-diagnosing themselves with or were misdiagnosed by a general practitioner.
Btw, an actual Migraine has four stages. Unlike tension or sinus headache, Migraine is a neurological disorder, rather than a symptom of an underling problem. I believe you might be able to relate. While some people claimed they have a migraine attack, they also claimed they do not the light or sound sensitivity, aura or postdrome. Then theirs is not a migraine attack. One can't just skip stage 1 or 2 and exit from stage 3 (migraine attack). It is probably the other two common headache symptom.
| The four stages of migraine |
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| Stage 1: Migraine Prodrome: includes neck stiffness, frequent yawning |
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| Stage 2: Migraine Aura (may happen before or while in a migraine attack):** Include visual phenomena such as seeing various shape, bright spots or flashes of light, vision loss, difficulty speaking |
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| Stage 3: Migraine Attack :** Pain, usually on one side, but more often on both sides-increased sensitivity to light, sound and smell or touch- pain that throbs or pulse - last between 4 to 72 hours |
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| Stage 4: Migraine Post-drome: Following the attack, Feeling confused and washout up to a day, or even unexplained onset happiness |