Have been holding off buying a new MacBook for years now, but need to upgrade for the latest version of Xcode. Had to return the 14” pro because of it causing headaches. Apparently the new M2 Air is flicker free, has anyone here tried it? https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Air-M2-Entry-Review-A-very-good-but-too-expensive-daily-MacBook.636637.0.html
Has anyone tried the M2 MacBook Air?
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From the article you posted:
and the panel now supports the wider P3 color gamut
Presumably this eliminates the need for temporal dithering.
However, the new MacBook Air M2 shows no sign of PWM flickering in return, which will definitely be an advantage for some users.
Nice, assuming they measured it correctly.
Will probably check it out in the store. If anyone gives it a try, please do share.
One user claims the Air M2 is using 8bit+FRC: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/14-inch-macbook-pro-to-m2-macbook-air.2350279/post-31243265
I have tried the new macbook air m2 for 2 weeks, unfortunately it didn’t work. Macbook air m1 was more comfortable for my eyes.
Now I'm remembering a recent Mac review, do not remember if it was an M1/M2, which showed the pwm shape changed depending on what colour space was used. Pretty odd.
It might be ok, but best to check it out in person.
Possible alternative, install macos in qemu/vm and install xcode in there.
eyestrainsolutions Was it unbearable compared to the M1?
I've had success with mine, I only received it last week (having had to return a Macbook Pro 16 mini LED after one week), but so far it's comfortable for me to use whereas anything OLED/mini-LED gives me migraines.
Problem devices – New Macbook Pros, iPhone XS, Steam Deck, PS Vita
Comfortable devices – Macbook Pro 2013, iPhone 11, Macbook Air M2
MBP212 yeah I'd have thought you'd be fine with that, the ratings on Notebookcheck so far have held up for me personally, my iPad Pro had zero PWM on their list and I can use that comfortably as well, M2 Air has zero PWM at all levels according to their review and rankings – https://www.notebookcheck.net/PWM-Ranking-Notebooks-Smartphones-and-Tablets-with-PWM.163979.0.html
I ordered from Apple directly just incase, as got the impression from a brief read of the T&Cs (although didn't test it) I could return it if it did cause eye strain/migraines.
Moe3224 it's the best laptop I've had for my eyes so far and will definitely be keeping. I can use for a full day okay and have also been using with a flicker free monitor when I need two screens for a bit more screen real estate for work.
I just saw in the Notebook check reviews it doesn't use Temporal Dithering as well as no PWM, which I know some people on this forum have issues with.
I hope it fixes the problem for you as know how frustrating and how much time thinking about it this issue takes up.
joelj Okay, I might return return the m1 then and get the m2. I use the iPad Pro 2021 11" no problem and iPhone 11 too, but I can't stand the screen of the MacBook Air m1. I lose focus fast and my eye hurts after using it for less than an hour. Did you try the MacBook Air m1 or just the Pro?
Just the Pro and while it didn’t give as bad migraines as OLED screens, the words and picture didn’t seem ‘solid’ and stable like on my 2013 MBP. There Air they do, but I never tried the M1.
iPad Pro 2018, absolutely fine (but no PWM apparently)
joelj It's weird to me that while it's great that the system is working well for you, we have another thread here with slo-mo video of the same machine flashing away the screen. It's possible that other unit had a hardware failure.. are you able to take a look at your screen in slo-mo 240 fps mode with your phone and see if it's flashing away?
degen I use my iPad Pro 2021 11" with 0 issues, I don't feel any eye strains or something close to it. I use my windows laptop for work and connect it to two external monitors and I work hours behind these monitors with no issues too. When I received my MacBook Air m1 and connected it to the monitor, damn my eyes turn red in less than an hour and I can't focus on anything after that. I feel like it's the dithering that is causing the issue, I don't know if this issue persist on the M2 but Ill keep trying with my M1 and see if I get used to it. If the issue keeps happening with this M1 I will return it without thinking twice.
Moe3224 here you go, recorded on my iPhone 11 slow motion video, hope that's enough grey –
https://we.tl/t-BSrJRoEWfH