I’m a 42 year old molecular biologist and teacher. In the past year I have been exposed to new LED signs and overhead lighting that trigger immediate pain and after more than a few minutes exposure, trigger migraines that include pain/pressure behind my eye. In the context of this, I’ve also noticed that screen usage causes the same sensation of pain/pressure behind my eye (although to a somewhat lesser degree) and seems to aggrevate the migraine symptoms. The screen sensitivity is most noticable when I have an LED-caused migraine, but is still present to a lesser degree when I don’t have a migraine.

I first noticed an issue in that it was painful (immediate pain behind my eyes) when looking at an LED billboard in Times Square. Last year my bank put a new LED-backlit sign behind the tellers (probably a 2D array of pinpoint white LEDs that were behind a plastic diffuser panel) and I couldn’t look at it because the pain was so severe. However, I largely ignored these issues and attibuted them to my “migraine brain.” I’ve periodically gotten hormone-change associated migraines since puberty and those migraines tend to come with sensitivity to any bright lights. I had never had light sensitivity before without having a migraine. This LED sensitivity was unusual because I didn’t have a migraine when experiencing it and it was more sharply painful than my migraine-associated light sensitivity.

I teach and this school year I had to move to a newly-renovated floor where they had installed very bright custom-built LED lights consisting of long lines of pinpoint LEDs, with an LED pinpoint light coming about every centimeter or so. The fixtures have a diffuser panel covering the actual LEDs. The lights are extra bright because the architects decided to not install a drop ceiling to give the space an industrial look, so the lights need to be extra bright to compensate for a lack of light reflecting off of the nonexistent ceiling. The lights use PWM and at full intensity the flicker rate is supposed to be several hundred Hz. I don’t know if it’s the intensity, the flicker, the blue color, or some other aspect of the lights, but they’re immediately painful (pain behind the eyes) and they have triggered severe migraines that are different from my normal migraines.

My normal hormone-related migraines cause pounding pain on the left side of my head that worsens if I move, comes with nausea and vomiting and light sensitivity (to any light), and resolves after several hours. I’ve never noticed any signs of aura with these migraines. The symptoms are so severe that I can’t function. Luckiy, I can prevent almost all of these symptoms by taking Advil at the first sign, although sometimes I still experience minor light sensitivity and fatigue. Due to Advil and luck, I’ve never missed work due to a migraine. Testing by a neurologist when I was a child ruled out other potential problems besides migraines.

Testing in the last month by a neurologist, a neuroopthamologist, and an MRI have ruled out other problems now other than migraines. The neuroopthamologist confirmed my corrected vision is still 20/20 (I am very severely nearsighted -8).

The LED light migraines cause constant (non-pounding) pain on the right side of my head and it isn’t worsened if I move. The pain is “moderate” in that I can fake my way through normal activities to some degree. I experience increased light sensitivity to LED lights. Sunlight and bright incandescent lights don’t bother me at all. It becomes more painful than normal to see LED headlights, LED store lights, or the LED lights under scaffolding over sidewalks throughout New York. I experience minor pain when exposed to any lights that flicker slowly enough to be detected with a fidget spinner (the pattern appearing to spin in both directions due to the flicker) - these lights do not cause pain for me normally. [Note that the awful workplace LEDs triggering my migraines flicker much more quickly than can be detected with a fidget spinner]. The migraine also causes nausea which is severe enough that I don’t feel like eating, but hasn’t yet caused vomiting. Perhaps the most difficult part of the migraine is that it severely decreases my short-term memory/processing skills. I notice a general “fuzziness” of thinking, and somewhat more objectively, when grading papers I have difficulty remembering what a student wrote a couple sentences before in short answer responses. I have trouble tallying points on a page with several numbers. Both of these tasks had been fairly effortless for me in the past and are still effortless now if I’m not experiencing a migraine. I also experienced severe mental and physical fatigue. I was essentially winging teaching all of my classes because I couldn’t manage to do prep work. I also noticed occasional blurriness in one eye that seemed to come and go and was most often present when I woke up in the morning, but then would go away.

At the beginning of this school year, there was no way to turn off the overhead LEDs because the construction hadn’t been completed and the light switches hadn’t been connected, so the lights stayed on 24/7. I also delayed taking measures like wearing sunglasses for a while because I wanted to avoid putting distance between myself and my new students. However, after a few weeks I started wearing a hat, dark sunglasses, and would flip the circuit breaker to get most of the LEDs out (an “emergency” LED light would stay on). It would take multiple days out of the school building before I would start to feel anything close to normal. Processing deficits and fatigue would last for days. Since December, the light switches were connected, so I’ve kept the LEDs off in the classroom, had incandescents brought in, and I minimize my time in the hallways where I wear the hat and dark glasses. By doing this, I’ve gotten rid of the migraines and my processing skils have returned to normal, but I still have screen issues (see below). Things that I tried to prevent the LED migraines:
-Dimming overhead LEDs (doesn’t work) - sometimes it seemed like symptoms were worse (not surprising considering what I now know about PMW). Sometimes it seemed like symptoms were less severe. I’m not sure whether it’s better or worse, but it’s definitely insufficient.
-Hat - blocking directly looking at the lights definitely helps, but is insufficient.
-Hat and normal amber sunglasses. They help (better than the hat alone), but are insufficient.
-Hat and Uvex SCT-orange glasses. These glasses block all blue light (I have them for DNA work) and block about the same range as “migraine” glasses like theraspecs. They had a similar effect as the normal sunglasses - They help (better than the hat alone), but are insufficient.
-Hat and UVEX Shade 5 glasses. These welding glasses block all but 2% of light, including in the blue range. The LED lights on our floor are so intense that things still look fairly normal with these on in terms of brightness (other than them creating a limited color palette). The combination of these glasses and the hat have allowed me to endure brief times in the hallways without triggering a migraine. I can still barely feel the pain-behind-the-eyes sensation with them on, so I never stay in the hallway for long these days.

The neuroopthamologist I saw was in a newly-renovated building. I suspected that the lights might have been bad (although not as intense or immediately painful as the lights at my school). I went through that visit without sunglasses, felt like I might be staring on an LED-migraine toward the end of the visit, and did indeed have an LED-migraine by the time I got home, which then lasted 8 days (symptoms varying on different days, but gradually becoming a bit better each day). Interestingly to me in retrospect, and concerning at the time, the visual field test showed a significant peripheral blind area in my right eye during that visit. I went back a week later to repeat that test and have more tests (the blind area made him worry about possible glaucoma). On the second visit I wore my hat and Shade 5 glasses, covered my eyes with my hands while waiting, and asked them to turn out the lights whenever possible with the intent of not triggering a new migraine (although I was still at the tail end of the old one and had very minor pain behind my eye still). The visual field test was normal this time (no glaucoma!). I didn’t get a new migraine. I asked the neuroopthamologist if he thought the blind area might have been evidence of migraine aura the first time. He wouldn’t commit one way or the other due to the subjectivity of the test. Since I’ve experienced occasional unexplained vision blurriness with these migraines, I wonder if it really could have been evidence of aura in the early stages of a migraine.

Some stores with new overhead LED lighting or new LED panels also have similar effects for me and I need to minimize my time in them or wear dark glasses.

I had never noticed an issue in the past with household lamp LEDs or overhead fluorescent tube lights, but when having and following the LED migraines, these are now a little painful and I’ve gotten non-migraine headaches from hours of exposure to overhead fluorescent tube lights. I got rid of the one dim, rarely-used LED bulb I had in my apartment when my problems started. I’ve avoided household LED exposure in other apartments (turning them off when they started to bother me at my sister's), so haven’t really tested its long-term effects.

I’ve started having issues with monitors that have seemed to have started at about the same time I started having problems with LED lighting, although I can’t be completely sure of the timing because maybe the LED migraines just made me more aware of the screen issues. Regardless of the timing, I know that the screen issues cause some of the same symptoms as the LED migraines, just less severely. These are pain/pressure behind my right eye that feels exactly the same as the LED-migraine pain. It starts as a very subtle feeling that builds to be worse the longer I use the screen. Scrolling or reading rapidly seem to make it worse. When it becomes more severe, it can have some nausea.

I’ve tried to research LED lights from a medical perspective, including communicating with a world-expert on the biological effects of lighting, but there have not yet been any actual research studies on the effects of LED lights on humans. Talking to neuroscientists, it sounds like fMRI studies are needed and that what is needed would be too involved to tack onto some other study. Apparently time on fMRI machines is also hard to come by. Funding and initiative to study this is needed and it isn’t going to be coming from the lighting industry.

I’m curious about how many other people have similar issues with LED lights. I was pleased to find this forum because what many of you are describing with monitor issues are very similar to the monitor issues I’ve recently experienced that seem linked to my LED lighting issues. As the industrial-style LED lights get put into more buildings, I wonder how many people will find that they are affected? I’m particularly concerned that vulnerable populations without a voice in society may bear the brunt of the problem - including school children and people without the ability to change the lighting in their workplace. For example, at my school, all of the administrators have opted to use non-LED lights in their offices because they don’t “like” the LEDs, but the students don’t have that choice. I know the LEDs reduce my processing skills - could they be affecting the children too? We have no idea because no one has done the studies.

I’m also glad to find this forum because I need to find a monitor solution for myself so I can keep working effectively - it’s nice to learn that it isn’t an issue with all monitors for everyone. For reference, I used a white MacBook 2007 A1181 laptop to write a textbook in the 2011/2012 school year and had no issues even though I spent every single free moment on it writing and drawing figures. Between then and this year, I didn’t specifically notice monitor issues, but I wasn’t using a laptop nearly as intensely and I now wonder in retrospect if screens may have contributed to a moderate increase in what I thought were early migraine symptoms in recent years, but might in retrospect have been monitor effects. This August and into the beginning of the school year, I spent significant time on my current laptop (2015 MacBook Air running OS 10.11.6) revising and formatting my textbook for publication. I started to notice the pain from monitor usage then. However, I noticed it during/after my first significant LED migraine. I have an iPhone SE and sometimes screen time on the phone also bothers me, but I haven’t been careful enough about analyzing it yet in terms of figuring out if it’s only when I have a migraine, or also when I don’t have a migraine since the pain caused by screen usage tends not to start immediately for me. The old 2007 MacBook is without a battery, but after reading this forum, I might try to resurrect it.

I’d like to do something to help push for some actually studies of the effects of LED lights on the brain. As far as I can tell from my connections in the medical and research worlds, this won’t happen without significant funding for a real study and a researcher willing to do it. Other than “contacting my congressperson” does anyone have ideas of how to make this happen? Does anyone know of anyone collecting data about the prevalence of people who have these issues? The increasing marketing of “eye-care” anti-flicker screens and blue blocker glasses suggests that there might be a problem of a significant size that might become even more apparent as industrial-style LED lighting makes its way into more workplaces if there is in fact a connection.

    jen Hello, welcome here. Theres a charity based in UK https://lightaware.org/. That could be a good start. There were talks with tech companies (intel), but it took years and went nowhere.
    I personally decided to try and figure out how to be part of the 95% who dont have this issue, instead of trying to convince someone to do research. Ive discovered hidden eye issues and I am improving, hopefully being resistant in the following months. Ive gone as far as not having migraines anymore, just discomfort, exhaustion and lesser pain. You can read here - https://ledstrain.org/d/369-my-possible-solution-treatment-and-progress-so-far/159

    20/20 vision means nothing if you have convergence insufficiency/excess and resulting other issues. Why the new lighting is triggering this, noone knows yet.

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      martin Hello - thanks so much for sharing the information! I've never had any reading issues before this year or any of the symptoms mentioned in the article, so I doubt I have issues with tracking, but I very much appreciate you sharing the info and I'll bring it up as a possibility with the opthamologist the next time I see him. Maybe I really do have an issue with it that wouldn't have been evident before LEDs. I'm glad you've found something that is helping to alleviate your migraines.

      Incidentally, tonight after reading everyone's posts I rigged up my old 2007 MacBook (OS 10.5.8 NVIDIA GeForce 9400M) to run my current 2015 MacBook Air (OS 10.11.6 Intel HD Graphics 6000 1536 MB) via remote access/screen sharing (so I can run current programs but use the old screen; no battery, but it still works with the power cord). I've been working for a few hours this way without pain, so I'm really pleased to have found a workaround - thank you so much to everyone who has shared your experiences on this forum! The minor lag time and moderate glitchiness is worth it to be headache-free. The linkup has crashed a few times when Word has given me the spinning wheel of death and each time I have to go back onto the new laptop to restart, my head pain returns, but then goes away when I get back onto the old laptop, so I think this old screen/Graphics card/operating system combination might actually really be OK. Now my search will begin for a more reasonable modern solution...

        jen UVEX Shade 5 glasses

        I have similar goggles (shade 3 though) in the lab. I quickly tried them on to look at my display and they seem to help with eyestrain. I think they should be neutral density filters, so they block light of any wavelength to the same extent. But they make it really dark. Not sure what that is telling, maybe I am really light sensitive...

        jen It would have to be an optometrist, and a good one. Unfortunately most ophtalmologists will not only tell you its bullshit, but might discourage you from searching further. I also never had any problems reading print, and I have the worst case of esophoria possible (at the bad end of the scale). Something in new tech/light makes it manifest, as in - disrupts binocular vision.

        2 months later

        Hi everyone,
        A while back I started to get chronic headaches. If I sat for more than 10 minutes or so I'd feel sick. Later found that the external monitor plugged to my laptop was to blame.I removed the monitor and haven't experience any migraines since then.

        Try these:

        • Make sure that your monitor sit at eye level to reduce slouching, which can lead to tension and migraine
        • Adjust the brightness of the screen to match the ambient light around you. Adjust so the text are easier to read, not too high nor too low.
        • Work under natural light if possible (I usually work on the morning and avoid working at night)
        a month later
        15 days later

        Hi everyone,

        i am here because i am aftected by this problem like almost of you! 🙂
        I'am 30 years old and i am a SAP consultant, so i work with my notebook and i am also a nerd. This mean that i am all day in front of a monitor.
        I've never had any problems about that before i've decide to change my old monitor. The BenQ V2400W (i don't know if it was a led backlight or CCFL):

        • LG 27UD68 4K 27" IPS LED. With this monitor I had the first symptoms. Redness in the eyes, headache, etc.
        • AOC I2481FXH FULL HD 24" IPS LED. Same symptoms.
        • Asus MG248Q FULL HD 24" TN 144hz. It was ok but i din't like the monitor itself.

        At the end i bought and kept the Allienware AW2518HF FULL HD 25" TN 240hz. Super nice monitor, nice color (seems like an ips panel more then a TN) and zero symptoms.

        At work my notebook is "DELL Latitude 5550" with zero symptoms. But i can't use any external monitor that we have in my company. They are all dells from P23XX series. I've tryed every single monitor from diferent years but nothing. I can't use them.

        I've bought a Macbook air 13" 2018 and i had to send it back. Same thing with the ipad pro 10.5 2017. so i am still using the dell notebook and the Ipad Air 2.

        I am sure that in my case it's not a PWM problems. My symptoms are not realted with it. I've never had any problem with OLED screen. I have an OLED TV LG B8 and an iphone X.

        This problem is stressing me out. I hope the future tecnology like micro led could help us with our problem 🙁

        Another thing that scares me off are the monitor's car. In that case I could not make a return if I were sick..

          5 days later

          Lauda89 your problems sound like Motion blur. Any external monitor you hook up will have a degraded signal and probably run at 60hz. OLED probably gives you no problems because the GTG is fast even though the MPRT is slow. Regular LED you get slow GTG and MPRT unless you are running 240hz or black frame insertion. Probably most times you use a monitor at 60hz you are going to have problems unless it has a good overdrive feature.

            jasonpicard I don't think that high refresh rate is enough to resolve my problem because i had problems with the ipad pro that is a 120hz refresh rate and also with a benq gaming monitor 144hz (i don't remeber the name of the model).

            By the way i found the model name of the wrost laptop for me: DELL vostro 15 5568
            https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-Vostro-15-5568-Core-i5-7200U-Full-HD-2017-Notebook-Review.195582.0.html

            With this laptop i felt sick (nausea and headache) for an entire weekend afther a cople days of useg. Notebookcheck said that it was a PWM free.
            Instead with my DELL latitude e5550 and also with the E5590 models i have zero issue and they have PWM at low frequency 1000hz.
            https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-Latitude-5590-i5-8250U-IPS-FHD-Laptop-Review.290308.0.html

            I've also tryed the xiaomi mi 9 from a friend yesterday and it wasn't fine for me. That was really sad because it's the first oled that cause me problems. 🙁

              4 days later

              Lauda89 I don't believe 120hz or 144hz is fast enough for most people on this forum either. Also there is a lot of problems with 240hz monitors not running 60hz content properly. It becomes a trail and error with monitors. It also becomes a battle with different panel types as well. Some people will soon have the ability to try the first VA panel at 240hz. Having control of the gamma and the black equalizer and a good over drive option can also be a big help. BFI can also close the motion blur gap and get your LED running smoother then a CRT.

              3 months later

              Good morning, I’m Italian and I’m in thirty. I have discovered this site few years ago, but only recently I have read many things inside it and I have decided to register. I worked in the IT sector, but I’m trying to change job sector. I will speak about my problems with monitors; then I will speak about my medical investigation and, at the end, I will speak about what it works for me (a bit, or totally, depending to the case). It will be a long post: in part it works as “outburst”, but there are also ideas/suggestions (I will give them and I will ask them) here and there.

              First part

              1) All it has started many years go with antialiasing filter in videogames. I was a real videogamer (4-5 hours per day) and, over the time, I have discovered to be very sensitive to all graphic filters used in videogames, that, basically, they are almost all derivated forms of antialiasing (bilinear-trilinear-anisotropic filtering, blur, all the main antialiasing filters, HDR illumination, ambient occlusion ecc. ecc.) Every filter, was a “surprise” always different, because it took (and it takes) a different part of my head and/or a different part of my body (in particular muscular/articular tension/excitement and/or pain to forearms and calves). So, I'm not speaking only about red eyes and headaches (of the most various types, deep pressure in one point of the head included; and, sometimes, a strange sensation of “excitement” in the head that remember me what I have read about epilepsy), but also about body symptoms.
              Fortunately, in the OS I can shut down all filters using nvidia control panel and nvidia inspector (for example antaliasing gamma and FXAA) and I am no more a videogame player (modern consoles are off-limits for me, but I don’t care). About PC games, in some games the filters can be turned-off, in some other not (they are coded to deep); moreover, sometime it’s precisely a specific graphic engine that has inside shaders or other things that I can’t sustain).
              When exposed to these game filters, I have aggressive symptoms in no more than two minutes (like the ones I have described above). Another bad thing, it’s the fact that I need (I mean always, not only for graphic filters) at least 48 hours of “detoxification” (I must stay away to the source of problem) to return completely healthy.

              2) At certain point, they have arrived LED screens. I have been always sensible to brightness and I have always set CCFL monitor brightness and contrast near 0 (no eye strain problem with these monitors), but with the LED monitors, they have arrived also dizziness (with the other sympthoms and in few minutes). More in general, screens brightness it has always been a real problem for me: for example, even with the small screen in my car, I’m obliged to set brightness to low (“low”, “normal” and “high” are the settings) to stay safe (of course, not big symptoms, but anyway a light version of them if I look the screen for many minutes with normal/high brightness setting).
              2.1) Laptops: I have bought my first laptop for work and laptops were already all with LED backlights, but laptops screens are more small than desktop monitors, so I can work on them 4-5 hours per day “resisting” to the bad symptoms (living with headaches). Or, at least, it was true with laptops of 6-7 years ago. I have changed my laptop recently, experimenting symptoms similar or even worst that ones experimented with LED desktop (old) monitors (I will speak about this point later).
              2.2) Desktop LED monitors: I was one that bought cheap monitors as teenager and in the early twenty, later I have started to study monitors characteristics and to spend more money for them. I have done some progress with them (I will speak about them later).
              2.3) Color palette (I think). Also with the CCFL monitors, I was and I’m always obliged to install the drivers and color ICC profile specific of that monitor model (I mean: I do it not only because I need to see it in a more professional way, I mean that I’m obliged to do it to stay safe).

              3) Eyeglasses (filters). When I was a child and a teenager, I don’t had problems with glasses lens. So I suppose that also here it’s about “technology changes” (the symptoms are almost the same that I have with monitors). Anyway, I have speak about my problems with my oculist and he had driven me to an optician that usually resolves these kind of problems. With the premise that I'm talking about one specific brand/multinational that produces lenses (so I don't know the effects on me of other lenses), I must say that it has been a great mistake: opticians they always intend just the problem with the blue light and similar minor things. The optician had gave me an eyeglasses with many filters that in theory they should have helped me, but all have gave me problems (the filter for blue lights, the filter for UV rays, astigmatic correction etc. etc.). With these eyeglasses I have had the worst “trigger” experience of my life (not in terms of pain, just as trigger: I mean I have had a real “trigger” ) : I was in front of monitor and I have felt real “low electrical charges” without pain (I don’t know how to name them in English) in my brain spaced a few seconds apart one to another; during them, my vision it became blurred, but I have never lost the control of my body. I had been wearing those glasses for about five hours and obviously I took them off and never put them back.
              In the following weeks I have been obliged to remove all the filters one by one and I have discovered that also the colors (chromatic spectrum) of the basic anti-reflection filter must be made in a certain way to be safe for me. I wonder: considering that I have problems also with lens glasses and that I have read here in this site something about very light forms of etherotropia that, after years, can generate aggressive eye strain, there are other things eye-related that you suggest to investigate?

              4) HDMI, DVI, Display port rendering: I don’t have the worst symptoms with them, but anyway they are all very uncomfortable for me (probably two hours it’s my limit with them) : the only safe rendering for me it’s VGA (I use it also with adapters). Anyway, I don’t have investigated in a deep way this thing (I have tried only with three not recent monitors), so I can’t know if there may monitors with HDMI/DVI/display port rendering that are safe for me. This seems to be the most rare cause about this kind problems: anyone has problems with these types of rendering like me?

              5) LED TV: I can speak only about old LED TVs. Porting the backlight very near to zero (I mean the backlight command option that is present only in the TVs), porting the brightness near 30% and rising the contrast near 70%, I can use them without problems. Curiously, when the TV is a TV-monitor model, this setting it’s safe for me when I use it as TV, but not if I use it as PC monitor (the setting it’s the same).

              6) Smartphones: same symptoms, but less strong. I will speak later about what it works for me.

              7) Windows 10 OS and graphic cards. I have read in this site that some people have remained with windows 7 because windows 10 cause them problems. I had their same idea until few time ago and of course I can’t exclude that it’s always true or false in a “linear way”, but after my recent experience with Tier 2 Microsoft support, I have partially changed my mind. Same thing about graphic cards (maybe, but I’m not sure, with exception of Intel UHD laptop graphic cards). I will speak about this later.

              8) Public and private illumination with LED. Usually I don’t have problems with it, but rarely yes. I remember two shops inside megastores (one of them had many lights with blue LED illumination that caused me immediately problems: two months later almost all blue light had been replaced with white light that were safe for me: very probably I was not the only person that had problems with those lights). I remember also a light bulb LED for my room (an old model, when LED lights have just arrived to the market) : it was unsafe for me and I have been obliged to change it. Finally, I have concern about car headlights: I ask to myself if they are safe for me as driver, because for now I have always avoided to buy/drive cars with LED headlights (when I encounter other cars with LED headlights, usually I don’t have problems; my car is low and, even if rarely, I have problems with some SUV when they are rear me pointing LED headlights directly on me; ). Public illumination seem for now safe for me.


              Second part

              These symptoms basically has destroyed my possibility to build a solid career in the IT sector and now they have forced me to change sector (but PC are in almost every job, during these times). This fact it has also had repercussions in the quality of my life (problems with jobs = less money). During these years, I have done the following exams:

              • EEG (with also the “flash” tests) : all ok. The neurologist thought that he would then prescribe me even the EEG with the sleep deprivation, but after the result of the following exam he think it’s useless (I’m healthy for her).
              • MRI scan of the brain and eyes with liquid contrast: all ok. (MRI + EEG = for medics I’m not epileptic)
              • Some eyes exams: all ok. I’m myopic by many years and a bit astigmatic in one eye. They are things that I know from many years.
              • Various blood exams: they have found a strong vitamin B12 deficiency. Using integrators I have raise it, but (of course) my problems have been not resolved.

              Personally, I agree with users that say that what happens to our brains it’s a “weird/new” form of epilepsy that is not studied enough in a scientific way (because new technologies are too recent). And it’s also difficult to reproduce it with normal exams. I think in this way because, after all, the symptoms I have they are (sometime light, sometime strong) the ones that are described in the “advise about epilepsy” in the videogame manuals.
              I think that, we should stop defining it “eye strain”, because (at least for many of us), considering the symptoms, it’s something of really more serious (about health, and about the quality of life in this era). It's something that hardware and software manufactures should take in a serious way, even if it's something that it regards less than 1% of population. Because in this era it means not only to live for several days with medium-heavy disturbances, but also to see working careers destroyed and multiple employment opportunities.


              Third part

              Devices and configurations that I use in this moment.

              I don’t know if here in this site I’m one of the persons with the worst symptoms, but it seems to me that I’m one of the persons whose problems stem from the greatest number of sources. So, I hope what I’m going to describe maybe can help someone.

              1) Desktop configuration:
              First of all, I have 3 CCFL monitors that I use with VGA adapter, but I have tested that an Eizo monitor flexscan with white LED backlight it seem enough safe for me (a slight normal eye strain after some hours: it’s gold, considering that some old LED monitors can cause me dizziness in two minutes): I have bought a square monitor because the screen is more small, but I plan to test also 16:9 24inches EIZO flexscan (for now, I prefer to continue with CCFL monitors).
              Like many of you I was convinced that windows 10 causes eye strain. I had an Acer desktop no windows 10 native that, after installing a newer win 10 version, had begun to create problems to me. More in general, during that period, a win 10 version yes, a win 10 version no, I had problems. One day a Tier 2 microsoft support technician has suggested to me to update the bios: we both realized that it was impossible in this machine no windows 10 native. So I have bought an HP Pavilion with windows 10 (mid 2017) : in the last two years, I have had serious problems only one time, immediately resolved thanks to the fact that in those days a BIOS update has been released. Another time, I have had light problems, but I have easily resolved them updating nvidia drivers.
              What I want to say it’s that a person very sensible about these problems like me (many sources causes problems to me and symptoms are strong) can use a desktop with Windows 10 updated that ha as GPU an NVdia GTX 1050 (with drivers updated to the last version). So, I suggest to people to search if updates about BIOS are available in their PC and install them (Note: a BIOS update it’s not always categorized as “critical”, often is categorized just as “suggested”; moreover, usually is not present in windows update).
              My HP desktop of course has not a VGA link, but (thanks God) many screens has it yet, also during these times (like my CCFL monitors), so I use an adapter DVI to VGA (HDMI to VGA adapter it doesn't work for me).

              2) Smartphone
              In past I have tried 2 models with IPS LED screens: both caused me problems and the apps to reduce brightness and change color temperature they didn't help me. Fortunately, one day I have tried a Samsung Galaxy S5: it has an AMOLED screen (a kind of OLED developed by Samsung). I set the brightness near 0, Ihave installed on it blue light filter app to adjust temperature color and night mode app (but this second one I use it rarely, only in the total dark). Now I can use the screen for more than 30 minutes consecutive without symptoms and, considering that it’s a smartphone and not a PC, very rarely I use the screen for an amount of time so long (moreover, after the 30 minutes, the symptoms are not strong).

              3) Laptops
              For me, the worst argument.
              First of all, my first laptop was windows 8 native and cheap and LED. So, no windows 7 environment and big headaches, I suppose due to the PWM. I have used it for years with a tolerance of 4 hours per day, for no more than 4 days per week. I had also body symptoms. Considering my problems with high screens brightness, I couldn’t set the brightness to 100% to avoid PWM (I used at 16%: I had to choose the “lesser evil”).
              Recently, I have been obliged to change laptop. My first choice was Lenovo. It was perfect for my work exigencies, but after a week of “combat” with settings and external eye-care programs, I have been obliged to return it and I have chosen an HP Omen for three reasons:

              • In online reviews done with real testing it’s claimed to be PWM free.
              • White LED instead of RGB LED (many persons in the web say it helps against LED eye strain)
              • High quality screen (laptop screens are always junk compared to desktop screen: for a person like me, it means to have many more problems to find a safe laptop monitor)
              • the dedicated card it’s the only GPU (in fact, in system devices tab, there is only the NVIDIA 1060. There isn’t the Intel HD/UHD card, which is claimed to be many more worse than NVdia about eye strain)
                Of course I have spent many more money, because the problem is that doesn’t’ exist a PC with a high quality screen and a middle configuration.
                The result? After a week of updates and settings my HP Omen it’s better than the Lenovo, but in any case worse of my old Laptop. Basically I have spent more for a laptop that it's not safe for me (but I had to try; I had to known if a modern high quality laptop screen was safe or not for me). So this “curse”…, it seems it cannot be overcome (for me) with the most recent laptops.

              That’s all. I can sound naive but…, I wonder if Bill Gates influence can help us. I have in mind to write to Bill Gates foundation: not to ask money (of course), but to ask to help us with his influence, speaking about our problems to the CEO of the main hardware and software houses. Just an idea.

                mark107 Hey Mark! It was a really nice post, thank you to share it.
                I am Italian too and i am here for the same reason. Can we exchange our contacts? I'd like to have a chat with you in Italian. My English is not very good 🙂

                My email is: andrea.laudani89 at gmail.com

                Thank you !!

                  Lauda89 Hi lauda89, thanks for the offer! I will write to you in the week end.

                  I add few secondary things I had forgotten:

                  • About browsers: during last 5 years, I have had problems with two specific version of firefox (one of them it had been badly commented about eye strain by some other users); many years ago with one specific version of google chrome and never with Microsoft Edge.
                  • About programs, only the GUI/fonts of two of them have created me problems (I have used hundreds of programs)
                  • About websites, I remember problems with 7-8 sites during these years. Only one of them it was "famous" (in my country) and, after few months, it has returned to be safe for me.
                  16 days later

                  This is an update about my eye strain situation with the HP Omen laptop: maybe these info can help someone.
                  After a few weeks of tests, I have finally find a way to use it in a decent way (4 hours per day like my old laptop, even if symptoms are different: a bit worst about “head confusion”, but better about body symptoms).
                  1) The turning point it has been to raise contrast in the nvidia color settings: I have set it to 70. Usually for desktop monitors I use max 30 about contrast (monitor contrast setting: 0 or 10; nvidia color contrast setting: 30). In fact, my classic nvidia desktop settings are: contrast 30, brightness 40, Gamma 0.60; while my HP Omen settings are: contrast 70; brightness 30, gamma 1.00.
                  Two consideration about the high contrast setting (that usually my eyes hate in PC monitors, but in this case it proved to be necessary) :

                  • eDP laptop monitor connector (instead of the old LVDS) : it could be for this reason that I need to rise the contrast? I really don’t have idea, just an hypothesis.
                  • the (modern/recent) matte laptop screens. 15 inches Laptop screens usually are matte, and this is particularly true about high-end laptops. Even if these kind of screens (matte) are more comfortable, sometime users complaint that the vision results a bit too blurry. Maybe I need the high contrast setting for this reason (for persons like me, the blur it’s not just a simple nuisance).

                  2) PangoBright utility: in my opinion, it’s the best screen brightness dimmer (I mean against my symptoms; I don’t refer to the options/features etc.). I use it at 70% (black color).

                  3) Iris utility: best blue light filter (I use it at 70-75) and useful about color saturation (I have set it 84); I have also set brightness to 80 (but, even set it more low, it’s useless against my symptoms; also to reduce the nvidia colors gamma it's useless in this laptop: PangoBright utility it’s the best screen dimmer for me).

                  4) Windows basic brightness set to 16 (I use windows 10 v. 1903; nvidia 1060 graphic card drivers updated to the last version: the dedicated card it’s the only graphic card in this laptop).

                  Well, of course it’s not yet a safe use, but it’s for sure a better situation.

                    mark107 Another thing: I have entered in windows registry a command line against dithering on nvidia cards: I have found it in the web and I really don't know if it works or not. The forum user of that site had posted various options to activate it (he wanted to use dithering in a better way: rightly, since he has no problems like ours); I have simply copied and inserted the command that he said it disabled it.
                    I can post the link, if it's permitted to do this on this site.

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                      mark107 I think I already know what you're talking about, and sadly no empirical testing has been done.

                      2 months later

                      Hi all,

                      I am a 41 year IT worker and found this forum after doing research into my own eye strain issue which has gradually worsened over the past few years to life ruining proportions.

                      I have always had a sensitivity to brightly light monitors. Back in the CRT days bright work place screens would give me extreme eye strain and nauseating eye fatigue but happily I used to find that a radiation filter would solve the issue. Other than that throughout my twenties and early thirties I had no other problems.

                      My problem grew more serious as I reached my late thirties. First I began to get severe eye strain from handheld screens (which I had previously been fine with). I found blue light blocking glasses solved the issue for a while but as time passed the problem worsened again to the point where they no longer helped. Ive gotten to the stage where any near focal activity gives me horrible incapacitating eye strain, even reading paper books. As I turned 40 the problem worsened even further to the point where my distance vision got affected as well. I now struggle even with watching TV, especially if there are moving images.

                      At this point in time I live with almost permanent eye strain with it getting worse all the time. While my symptoms are similar to many people here there are some differences maybe. I am affected by any brightly lit screen (but can generally solve this with blue blockers or flux. The real killer for me is that moving images are physically painful. Any eye movement activity (such as reading a book) is uncomfortable. For this aspect of my condition I have absolutely no answers at all sadly.

                      I have invested a great deal of time and money into finding solutions with no success at all so far. I have been to well over a dozen different opticians and they have all concluded that my eyes are normal and healthy.

                      I have been to two different private eye surgeons who checked my eye function (normal), performed an MRI scan of brain and eye sockets (normal) and ran blood tests for thyroid imbalances (normal) before telling they couldn’t help me.

                      I then paid for a private orthoptist to look at eye teaming, binocular function and eye muscle related issues. After a great many tests nothing was found wrong and I was given a variety of different eye exercises to help strengthen and improve my vision. Again no real improvement.

                      Finally, out of desperation I paid a small fortune for a London Harley street expert to examine me. After another set of eye examinations I was told that my eyes are fine and that all my symptoms are perfectly normal for a person of my age. Given I am physically incapable of playing a video game or even reading a book without severe almost incapacitating eye strain this conclusion seemed more than a little strange to me. I was told that I can’t expect to have the eyes of a 20 year old and was prescribed Amitriptilyne to help me cope with the pain. Apparently, taking a low dose of anti depressant as a pain killer for the rest of my life was the best London’s finest had for me.

                      So that’s my story. I have been gladdened (though also saddened) to find a community of people struggling with similar issues. Having been recently told by an optician that my issue is ‘in my head’ it has been comfort to find this forum.

                      I am not giving up. Currently doing a good 30 mins to an hour of eye tracking exercises a day in the hope that this helps (no significant impact yet) and continuing to read everything I can on eye strain in the hope of a break through.

                      I could easily write more about all the conditions an solutions I’ve tried and explored Myers Irlene colour glasses, prisms, vitamin supplements, anti inflammatories and more but that’s enough out of me.

                      I just hope we can one day find a solution.

                      I

                        7 days later

                        jen

                        These are pain/pressure behind my right eye that feels exactly the same as the LED-migraine pain.

                        You described the trigger symptom perfectly in my own case as well. Looking at one of my colleague's LED monitors for about 1 minute will trigger an awful ache/pinching behind my eyes, but much stronger in the right eye. I've never dealt with migraines in the traditional sense before, but I've always heard of them being one-sided.

                        It was a while ago, but someone once did a play-on-words and turned the word "migraine" into "eyegrain", lol! I like it! Honestly it describes the issue a lot better, haha!

                        My only solution has been total avoidance of LEDs. I've gone about a good 5-month stretch without any big problems with eye/headache. I wish I had a better solution, but I haven't found one yet =(

                        Monte In reading your post (before you said you tried eye-tracking stuff), I really was thinking "binocular vision issues" the whole time. The give-away was that you have problem with print. That rules out a lot of things.

                        Try reading stuff outside in natural light to rule out even more stuff as your litmus test. Weird suggestion, but have you tried patching one eye? Maybe you have no problems with convergence, what about accommodation?

                        I say stick with the vision therapy exercises. Maybe even get yourself a Brock String. I'm pretty sure years of vision therapy really helped me. I still do 15-minute maintenance exercises on Saturdays and Sundays. I haven't really looked at this forum for the past 5 months or so, because honestly, I haven't had any visual comfort issues for a while.

                        Also always remember to give your eyes a break every 20 minutes and look at a distance object at least 20 feet away for at least 20 seconds. This makes a surprisingly big difference! Don't forget!

                          dev