Lauda89 your problems sound like Motion blur. Any external monitor you hook up will have a degraded signal and probably run at 60hz. OLED probably gives you no problems because the GTG is fast even though the MPRT is slow. Regular LED you get slow GTG and MPRT unless you are running 240hz or black frame insertion. Probably most times you use a monitor at 60hz you are going to have problems unless it has a good overdrive feature.
Welcome to LED Strain!
jasonpicard I don't think that high refresh rate is enough to resolve my problem because i had problems with the ipad pro that is a 120hz refresh rate and also with a benq gaming monitor 144hz (i don't remeber the name of the model).
By the way i found the model name of the wrost laptop for me: DELL vostro 15 5568
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-Vostro-15-5568-Core-i5-7200U-Full-HD-2017-Notebook-Review.195582.0.html
With this laptop i felt sick (nausea and headache) for an entire weekend afther a cople days of useg. Notebookcheck said that it was a PWM free.
Instead with my DELL latitude e5550 and also with the E5590 models i have zero issue and they have PWM at low frequency 1000hz.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-Latitude-5590-i5-8250U-IPS-FHD-Laptop-Review.290308.0.html
I've also tryed the xiaomi mi 9 from a friend yesterday and it wasn't fine for me. That was really sad because it's the first oled that cause me problems. 
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Lauda89 I don't believe 120hz or 144hz is fast enough for most people on this forum either. Also there is a lot of problems with 240hz monitors not running 60hz content properly. It becomes a trail and error with monitors. It also becomes a battle with different panel types as well. Some people will soon have the ability to try the first VA panel at 240hz. Having control of the gamma and the black equalizer and a good over drive option can also be a big help. BFI can also close the motion blur gap and get your LED running smoother then a CRT.
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Good morning, I’m Italian and I’m in thirty. I have discovered this site few years ago, but only recently I have read many things inside it and I have decided to register. I worked in the IT sector, but I’m trying to change job sector. I will speak about my problems with monitors; then I will speak about my medical investigation and, at the end, I will speak about what it works for me (a bit, or totally, depending to the case). It will be a long post: in part it works as “outburst”, but there are also ideas/suggestions (I will give them and I will ask them) here and there.
First part
1) All it has started many years go with antialiasing filter in videogames. I was a real videogamer (4-5 hours per day) and, over the time, I have discovered to be very sensitive to all graphic filters used in videogames, that, basically, they are almost all derivated forms of antialiasing (bilinear-trilinear-anisotropic filtering, blur, all the main antialiasing filters, HDR illumination, ambient occlusion ecc. ecc.) Every filter, was a “surprise” always different, because it took (and it takes) a different part of my head and/or a different part of my body (in particular muscular/articular tension/excitement and/or pain to forearms and calves). So, I'm not speaking only about red eyes and headaches (of the most various types, deep pressure in one point of the head included; and, sometimes, a strange sensation of “excitement” in the head that remember me what I have read about epilepsy), but also about body symptoms.
Fortunately, in the OS I can shut down all filters using nvidia control panel and nvidia inspector (for example antaliasing gamma and FXAA) and I am no more a videogame player (modern consoles are off-limits for me, but I don’t care). About PC games, in some games the filters can be turned-off, in some other not (they are coded to deep); moreover, sometime it’s precisely a specific graphic engine that has inside shaders or other things that I can’t sustain).
When exposed to these game filters, I have aggressive symptoms in no more than two minutes (like the ones I have described above). Another bad thing, it’s the fact that I need (I mean always, not only for graphic filters) at least 48 hours of “detoxification” (I must stay away to the source of problem) to return completely healthy.
2) At certain point, they have arrived LED screens. I have been always sensible to brightness and I have always set CCFL monitor brightness and contrast near 0 (no eye strain problem with these monitors), but with the LED monitors, they have arrived also dizziness (with the other sympthoms and in few minutes). More in general, screens brightness it has always been a real problem for me: for example, even with the small screen in my car, I’m obliged to set brightness to low (“low”, “normal” and “high” are the settings) to stay safe (of course, not big symptoms, but anyway a light version of them if I look the screen for many minutes with normal/high brightness setting).
2.1) Laptops: I have bought my first laptop for work and laptops were already all with LED backlights, but laptops screens are more small than desktop monitors, so I can work on them 4-5 hours per day “resisting” to the bad symptoms (living with headaches). Or, at least, it was true with laptops of 6-7 years ago. I have changed my laptop recently, experimenting symptoms similar or even worst that ones experimented with LED desktop (old) monitors (I will speak about this point later).
2.2) Desktop LED monitors: I was one that bought cheap monitors as teenager and in the early twenty, later I have started to study monitors characteristics and to spend more money for them. I have done some progress with them (I will speak about them later).
2.3) Color palette (I think). Also with the CCFL monitors, I was and I’m always obliged to install the drivers and color ICC profile specific of that monitor model (I mean: I do it not only because I need to see it in a more professional way, I mean that I’m obliged to do it to stay safe).
3) Eyeglasses (filters). When I was a child and a teenager, I don’t had problems with glasses lens. So I suppose that also here it’s about “technology changes” (the symptoms are almost the same that I have with monitors). Anyway, I have speak about my problems with my oculist and he had driven me to an optician that usually resolves these kind of problems. With the premise that I'm talking about one specific brand/multinational that produces lenses (so I don't know the effects on me of other lenses), I must say that it has been a great mistake: opticians they always intend just the problem with the blue light and similar minor things. The optician had gave me an eyeglasses with many filters that in theory they should have helped me, but all have gave me problems (the filter for blue lights, the filter for UV rays, astigmatic correction etc. etc.). With these eyeglasses I have had the worst “trigger” experience of my life (not in terms of pain, just as trigger: I mean I have had a real “trigger” ) : I was in front of monitor and I have felt real “low electrical charges” without pain (I don’t know how to name them in English) in my brain spaced a few seconds apart one to another; during them, my vision it became blurred, but I have never lost the control of my body. I had been wearing those glasses for about five hours and obviously I took them off and never put them back.
In the following weeks I have been obliged to remove all the filters one by one and I have discovered that also the colors (chromatic spectrum) of the basic anti-reflection filter must be made in a certain way to be safe for me. I wonder: considering that I have problems also with lens glasses and that I have read here in this site something about very light forms of etherotropia that, after years, can generate aggressive eye strain, there are other things eye-related that you suggest to investigate?
4) HDMI, DVI, Display port rendering: I don’t have the worst symptoms with them, but anyway they are all very uncomfortable for me (probably two hours it’s my limit with them) : the only safe rendering for me it’s VGA (I use it also with adapters). Anyway, I don’t have investigated in a deep way this thing (I have tried only with three not recent monitors), so I can’t know if there may monitors with HDMI/DVI/display port rendering that are safe for me. This seems to be the most rare cause about this kind problems: anyone has problems with these types of rendering like me?
5) LED TV: I can speak only about old LED TVs. Porting the backlight very near to zero (I mean the backlight command option that is present only in the TVs), porting the brightness near 30% and rising the contrast near 70%, I can use them without problems. Curiously, when the TV is a TV-monitor model, this setting it’s safe for me when I use it as TV, but not if I use it as PC monitor (the setting it’s the same).
6) Smartphones: same symptoms, but less strong. I will speak later about what it works for me.
7) Windows 10 OS and graphic cards. I have read in this site that some people have remained with windows 7 because windows 10 cause them problems. I had their same idea until few time ago and of course I can’t exclude that it’s always true or false in a “linear way”, but after my recent experience with Tier 2 Microsoft support, I have partially changed my mind. Same thing about graphic cards (maybe, but I’m not sure, with exception of Intel UHD laptop graphic cards). I will speak about this later.
8) Public and private illumination with LED. Usually I don’t have problems with it, but rarely yes. I remember two shops inside megastores (one of them had many lights with blue LED illumination that caused me immediately problems: two months later almost all blue light had been replaced with white light that were safe for me: very probably I was not the only person that had problems with those lights). I remember also a light bulb LED for my room (an old model, when LED lights have just arrived to the market) : it was unsafe for me and I have been obliged to change it. Finally, I have concern about car headlights: I ask to myself if they are safe for me as driver, because for now I have always avoided to buy/drive cars with LED headlights (when I encounter other cars with LED headlights, usually I don’t have problems; my car is low and, even if rarely, I have problems with some SUV when they are rear me pointing LED headlights directly on me; ). Public illumination seem for now safe for me.
Second part
These symptoms basically has destroyed my possibility to build a solid career in the IT sector and now they have forced me to change sector (but PC are in almost every job, during these times). This fact it has also had repercussions in the quality of my life (problems with jobs = less money). During these years, I have done the following exams:
- EEG (with also the “flash” tests) : all ok. The neurologist thought that he would then prescribe me even the EEG with the sleep deprivation, but after the result of the following exam he think it’s useless (I’m healthy for her).
- MRI scan of the brain and eyes with liquid contrast: all ok. (MRI + EEG = for medics I’m not epileptic)
- Some eyes exams: all ok. I’m myopic by many years and a bit astigmatic in one eye. They are things that I know from many years.
- Various blood exams: they have found a strong vitamin B12 deficiency. Using integrators I have raise it, but (of course) my problems have been not resolved.
Personally, I agree with users that say that what happens to our brains it’s a “weird/new” form of epilepsy that is not studied enough in a scientific way (because new technologies are too recent). And it’s also difficult to reproduce it with normal exams. I think in this way because, after all, the symptoms I have they are (sometime light, sometime strong) the ones that are described in the “advise about epilepsy” in the videogame manuals.
I think that, we should stop defining it “eye strain”, because (at least for many of us), considering the symptoms, it’s something of really more serious (about health, and about the quality of life in this era). It's something that hardware and software manufactures should take in a serious way, even if it's something that it regards less than 1% of population. Because in this era it means not only to live for several days with medium-heavy disturbances, but also to see working careers destroyed and multiple employment opportunities.
Third part
Devices and configurations that I use in this moment.
I don’t know if here in this site I’m one of the persons with the worst symptoms, but it seems to me that I’m one of the persons whose problems stem from the greatest number of sources. So, I hope what I’m going to describe maybe can help someone.
1) Desktop configuration:
First of all, I have 3 CCFL monitors that I use with VGA adapter, but I have tested that an Eizo monitor flexscan with white LED backlight it seem enough safe for me (a slight normal eye strain after some hours: it’s gold, considering that some old LED monitors can cause me dizziness in two minutes): I have bought a square monitor because the screen is more small, but I plan to test also 16:9 24inches EIZO flexscan (for now, I prefer to continue with CCFL monitors).
Like many of you I was convinced that windows 10 causes eye strain. I had an Acer desktop no windows 10 native that, after installing a newer win 10 version, had begun to create problems to me. More in general, during that period, a win 10 version yes, a win 10 version no, I had problems. One day a Tier 2 microsoft support technician has suggested to me to update the bios: we both realized that it was impossible in this machine no windows 10 native. So I have bought an HP Pavilion with windows 10 (mid 2017) : in the last two years, I have had serious problems only one time, immediately resolved thanks to the fact that in those days a BIOS update has been released. Another time, I have had light problems, but I have easily resolved them updating nvidia drivers.
What I want to say it’s that a person very sensible about these problems like me (many sources causes problems to me and symptoms are strong) can use a desktop with Windows 10 updated that ha as GPU an NVdia GTX 1050 (with drivers updated to the last version). So, I suggest to people to search if updates about BIOS are available in their PC and install them (Note: a BIOS update it’s not always categorized as “critical”, often is categorized just as “suggested”; moreover, usually is not present in windows update).
My HP desktop of course has not a VGA link, but (thanks God) many screens has it yet, also during these times (like my CCFL monitors), so I use an adapter DVI to VGA (HDMI to VGA adapter it doesn't work for me).
2) Smartphone
In past I have tried 2 models with IPS LED screens: both caused me problems and the apps to reduce brightness and change color temperature they didn't help me. Fortunately, one day I have tried a Samsung Galaxy S5: it has an AMOLED screen (a kind of OLED developed by Samsung). I set the brightness near 0, Ihave installed on it blue light filter app to adjust temperature color and night mode app (but this second one I use it rarely, only in the total dark). Now I can use the screen for more than 30 minutes consecutive without symptoms and, considering that it’s a smartphone and not a PC, very rarely I use the screen for an amount of time so long (moreover, after the 30 minutes, the symptoms are not strong).
3) Laptops
For me, the worst argument.
First of all, my first laptop was windows 8 native and cheap and LED. So, no windows 7 environment and big headaches, I suppose due to the PWM. I have used it for years with a tolerance of 4 hours per day, for no more than 4 days per week. I had also body symptoms. Considering my problems with high screens brightness, I couldn’t set the brightness to 100% to avoid PWM (I used at 16%: I had to choose the “lesser evil”).
Recently, I have been obliged to change laptop. My first choice was Lenovo. It was perfect for my work exigencies, but after a week of “combat” with settings and external eye-care programs, I have been obliged to return it and I have chosen an HP Omen for three reasons:
- In online reviews done with real testing it’s claimed to be PWM free.
- White LED instead of RGB LED (many persons in the web say it helps against LED eye strain)
- High quality screen (laptop screens are always junk compared to desktop screen: for a person like me, it means to have many more problems to find a safe laptop monitor)
- the dedicated card it’s the only GPU (in fact, in system devices tab, there is only the NVIDIA 1060. There isn’t the Intel HD/UHD card, which is claimed to be many more worse than NVdia about eye strain)
Of course I have spent many more money, because the problem is that doesn’t’ exist a PC with a high quality screen and a middle configuration.
The result? After a week of updates and settings my HP Omen it’s better than the Lenovo, but in any case worse of my old Laptop. Basically I have spent more for a laptop that it's not safe for me (but I had to try; I had to known if a modern high quality laptop screen was safe or not for me). So this “curse”…, it seems it cannot be overcome (for me) with the most recent laptops.
That’s all. I can sound naive but…, I wonder if Bill Gates influence can help us. I have in mind to write to Bill Gates foundation: not to ask money (of course), but to ask to help us with his influence, speaking about our problems to the CEO of the main hardware and software houses. Just an idea.
Lauda89 Hi lauda89, thanks for the offer! I will write to you in the week end.
I add few secondary things I had forgotten:
- About browsers: during last 5 years, I have had problems with two specific version of firefox (one of them it had been badly commented about eye strain by some other users); many years ago with one specific version of google chrome and never with Microsoft Edge.
- About programs, only the GUI/fonts of two of them have created me problems (I have used hundreds of programs)
- About websites, I remember problems with 7-8 sites during these years. Only one of them it was "famous" (in my country) and, after few months, it has returned to be safe for me.
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This is an update about my eye strain situation with the HP Omen laptop: maybe these info can help someone.
After a few weeks of tests, I have finally find a way to use it in a decent way (4 hours per day like my old laptop, even if symptoms are different: a bit worst about “head confusion”, but better about body symptoms).
1) The turning point it has been to raise contrast in the nvidia color settings: I have set it to 70. Usually for desktop monitors I use max 30 about contrast (monitor contrast setting: 0 or 10; nvidia color contrast setting: 30). In fact, my classic nvidia desktop settings are: contrast 30, brightness 40, Gamma 0.60; while my HP Omen settings are: contrast 70; brightness 30, gamma 1.00.
Two consideration about the high contrast setting (that usually my eyes hate in PC monitors, but in this case it proved to be necessary) :
- eDP laptop monitor connector (instead of the old LVDS) : it could be for this reason that I need to rise the contrast? I really don’t have idea, just an hypothesis.
- the (modern/recent) matte laptop screens. 15 inches Laptop screens usually are matte, and this is particularly true about high-end laptops. Even if these kind of screens (matte) are more comfortable, sometime users complaint that the vision results a bit too blurry. Maybe I need the high contrast setting for this reason (for persons like me, the blur it’s not just a simple nuisance).
2) PangoBright utility: in my opinion, it’s the best screen brightness dimmer (I mean against my symptoms; I don’t refer to the options/features etc.). I use it at 70% (black color).
3) Iris utility: best blue light filter (I use it at 70-75) and useful about color saturation (I have set it 84); I have also set brightness to 80 (but, even set it more low, it’s useless against my symptoms; also to reduce the nvidia colors gamma it's useless in this laptop: PangoBright utility it’s the best screen dimmer for me).
4) Windows basic brightness set to 16 (I use windows 10 v. 1903; nvidia 1060 graphic card drivers updated to the last version: the dedicated card it’s the only graphic card in this laptop).
Well, of course it’s not yet a safe use, but it’s for sure a better situation.
mark107 Another thing: I have entered in windows registry a command line against dithering on nvidia cards: I have found it in the web and I really don't know if it works or not. The forum user of that site had posted various options to activate it (he wanted to use dithering in a better way: rightly, since he has no problems like ours); I have simply copied and inserted the command that he said it disabled it.
I can post the link, if it's permitted to do this on this site.
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Hi all,
I am a 41 year IT worker and found this forum after doing research into my own eye strain issue which has gradually worsened over the past few years to life ruining proportions.
I have always had a sensitivity to brightly light monitors. Back in the CRT days bright work place screens would give me extreme eye strain and nauseating eye fatigue but happily I used to find that a radiation filter would solve the issue. Other than that throughout my twenties and early thirties I had no other problems.
My problem grew more serious as I reached my late thirties. First I began to get severe eye strain from handheld screens (which I had previously been fine with). I found blue light blocking glasses solved the issue for a while but as time passed the problem worsened again to the point where they no longer helped. Ive gotten to the stage where any near focal activity gives me horrible incapacitating eye strain, even reading paper books. As I turned 40 the problem worsened even further to the point where my distance vision got affected as well. I now struggle even with watching TV, especially if there are moving images.
At this point in time I live with almost permanent eye strain with it getting worse all the time. While my symptoms are similar to many people here there are some differences maybe. I am affected by any brightly lit screen (but can generally solve this with blue blockers or flux. The real killer for me is that moving images are physically painful. Any eye movement activity (such as reading a book) is uncomfortable. For this aspect of my condition I have absolutely no answers at all sadly.
I have invested a great deal of time and money into finding solutions with no success at all so far. I have been to well over a dozen different opticians and they have all concluded that my eyes are normal and healthy.
I have been to two different private eye surgeons who checked my eye function (normal), performed an MRI scan of brain and eye sockets (normal) and ran blood tests for thyroid imbalances (normal) before telling they couldn’t help me.
I then paid for a private orthoptist to look at eye teaming, binocular function and eye muscle related issues. After a great many tests nothing was found wrong and I was given a variety of different eye exercises to help strengthen and improve my vision. Again no real improvement.
Finally, out of desperation I paid a small fortune for a London Harley street expert to examine me. After another set of eye examinations I was told that my eyes are fine and that all my symptoms are perfectly normal for a person of my age. Given I am physically incapable of playing a video game or even reading a book without severe almost incapacitating eye strain this conclusion seemed more than a little strange to me. I was told that I can’t expect to have the eyes of a 20 year old and was prescribed Amitriptilyne to help me cope with the pain. Apparently, taking a low dose of anti depressant as a pain killer for the rest of my life was the best London’s finest had for me.
So that’s my story. I have been gladdened (though also saddened) to find a community of people struggling with similar issues. Having been recently told by an optician that my issue is ‘in my head’ it has been comfort to find this forum.
I am not giving up. Currently doing a good 30 mins to an hour of eye tracking exercises a day in the hope that this helps (no significant impact yet) and continuing to read everything I can on eye strain in the hope of a break through.
I could easily write more about all the conditions an solutions I’ve tried and explored Myers Irlene colour glasses, prisms, vitamin supplements, anti inflammatories and more but that’s enough out of me.
I just hope we can one day find a solution.
I
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These are pain/pressure behind my right eye that feels exactly the same as the LED-migraine pain.
You described the trigger symptom perfectly in my own case as well. Looking at one of my colleague's LED monitors for about 1 minute will trigger an awful ache/pinching behind my eyes, but much stronger in the right eye. I've never dealt with migraines in the traditional sense before, but I've always heard of them being one-sided.
It was a while ago, but someone once did a play-on-words and turned the word "migraine" into "eyegrain", lol! I like it! Honestly it describes the issue a lot better, haha!
My only solution has been total avoidance of LEDs. I've gone about a good 5-month stretch without any big problems with eye/headache. I wish I had a better solution, but I haven't found one yet =(
Monte In reading your post (before you said you tried eye-tracking stuff), I really was thinking "binocular vision issues" the whole time. The give-away was that you have problem with print. That rules out a lot of things.
Try reading stuff outside in natural light to rule out even more stuff as your litmus test. Weird suggestion, but have you tried patching one eye? Maybe you have no problems with convergence, what about accommodation?
I say stick with the vision therapy exercises. Maybe even get yourself a Brock String. I'm pretty sure years of vision therapy really helped me. I still do 15-minute maintenance exercises on Saturdays and Sundays. I haven't really looked at this forum for the past 5 months or so, because honestly, I haven't had any visual comfort issues for a while.
Also always remember to give your eyes a break every 20 minutes and look at a distance object at least 20 feet away for at least 20 seconds. This makes a surprisingly big difference! Don't forget!
MagnuM
I wore an eye patch for a week as part of an occlusion diagnostic test. It actually did help at first and for a while I would wear an eye patch to read at home with some results. Annoyingly it stopped working for me after about 6 months and eventually didn’t seem to make any difference.
I read up on the brock string after you mentioned it. From what I’ve read its similar to something I was given a while back. An optometrist gave me a piece of card, around 12 inches long and folded in the middle with dots along the crease. I did focus exercises with this for a while and it seems a similar idea to the brock string, the key difference being the brock string is longer. I’ve bought one and will add it to my daily routine.
I feel that in my case I suffer from two conditions at once. I have a sensitivity to bright backlit screens. I can solve this with blue light blocking glasses. The other issue as exactly as you say, something wrong with my binocular vision. I was once diagnosed with reduced accommodation by a specialist and told that people who have underlying binocular issues can suffer real problems As they start to get age related sight chances (such as myopia). It can break the visual system. I think that this might be an explanation for why some people here were fine in their youth and then started experiencing severe strain as they got their late 30s. The key clue is the glasses alone won’t solve this type of problem.
The first time I was given eye exercises my symptoms weren’t as bad and I only persevered for a couple of months and didn’t really do them
for a long time each day. I got no results then but am going back again for longer more intense exercises now things are worse for me.
I have noticed a slight improvement after a few weeks of intensive work and seeing your post has given me some real encouragement to keep going.
Would you mind if I asked how much time you put into exercises each day and for how long you persevered before you felt significant improvements?
It would be really good get an idea of how much was needed to make a difference in your case.
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Monte I'm the same as you where I have a dual issue and have since 2011/2012:
Issue #1: Severe sensitivity to LED light or backlights
Solution #1: Total avoidance of LED lighting.
Not the best solution, but I haven't really found anything else yet. Even blue-blockers don't seem like enough, however, I haven't tried some of the more aggressive orange-tinted glasses some have recommended (I think they are called SCT or something?)
Issue #2; Aching eyeballs from reading overuse
Solution #2: Breaks (20/20/20), vision therapy, enlarging print where possible
I did vision therapy for multiple years through my optometrist. It involved in-office visits every 2 weeks and home exercises a good 5x per week. I eventually "graduated" from vision therapy when I was able to basically do pencil pushups to my nose without losing convergence and getting acceptable results on the accommodation tests using the prisms. My vision therapist said that while I can do OK with keeping the pencil fused to a close viewing distance, the key is to hold that fusion comfortably for long reading sessions.
I also have had a lot of relief from just simply using the computer less (surprise, surprise!) I bought my first house a couple of years ago and I have a lot more things I need to take care of and do around the place for upkeep and what not. I've even managed to take up a weird enjoyment in yard work (it's different when it's your yard and there's nobody else that's going to look after it!) This has all helped my issue of having strained eyes and an ache head at almost all times.
My occupation is as a Server Administrator (SysAdmin), which involves a lot of typing and screen-staring. I would always notice the issue a lot worse when I'm doing a lot of close work in spreadsheets, looking at (rather crude-looking and formatted) server logs, and on applications or websites where I'm unable to enlarge the text using Control + mousewheel.
When I'm tired or have read for a while, I can sometimes feel myself lose convergence for a split-second. It's one of the weirdest feelings in the world. It feels like one or both or your eyes have darted to an extreme corner of your eye sockets only to return back to neutral seemingly instantly. That's when I know it's time for a distance-viewing break!
I think they key is to recognize you're getting a strain developing before it happens. It's like holding a plank - it seems easy at first, then all of a sudden, your abs start burning like crazy and you seemingly can't tolerate it for more than a few more seconds!
My vision therapy exercises on weekend days involve tracking the eraser of an HB pencil while doing a whole bunch of motions with it, then doing pencil pushups, then doing a lot of "jumps" (looking and focusing on something really close, then really far, then close, then far, etc). I should also buy myself a Brock String and incorporate it into my "maintenance" vision therapy which I've done for years. There's also probably some good resources online.
It's important not to lose hope. Success stories are out there (although I don't see as many around here as I'd like to!)
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Hi, Im Kamran
I live in Iran.
I am 28 and a college student.
ive been affected by digital screens as long as I remember! even crt displays.
ive been to two eye doctors and none of them could diagnose my symptoms. rather than prescribing glasses.
my worst symptoms happened after i use my 40 inch bravia sony tv as a monitor. it hurt my right eye and after one year it hasnt been treated yet! the symptoms are feeling of an external object in my eye like a hair or sth, burning, eye pinch ....
however, using sterile eye drops prescribed by my doctor has alleviated it.
there are some displays that are easier on my eyes, which are iphones'.
but it could be due to it's screen protection being installed on it.
from this experiment i used a transparent PAPER COVER and taped it to my laptop screen now i can use it without headaches , eye strain and etc! you see watching movies don't hurt my eyes, rather working with windows, reading webpages, typing is the culprit. so now i watch videos on youtube and videos generally on my tv and work on my windows without hassles.
from things ive understood so far, it's mostly the brightness and contrast of the screens my eyes can't handle. why, is a mystery yet!
note: now i can only use my laptop with brightness on 20% and the nylon installed on it. and also i use a screen protector on my tv.
kamrangojira Do you know why the nylon helps you? Does it make the screen much darker? Or it just helps and you don't know why?
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KM yes, it lowers the contrast and brightness of the screen, but just enough to not degrade the quality!
so it's worked for me. I discovered it some months ago. to be specific, it's a tranparent PAPER COVER.
it works like smartphones' screen protectors. one of the reasons my iphone was much easier on my eyes it had a protector and my other screens didn't. it suffices to say i tried computer eyeglasses, f.lux software...... and none of 'em were helpful like this one.
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kamrangojira Welcome!
Your writing has a lot of capitalization which can come across as yelling.
To allow your writing to be easier to read, please write it in title case or lowercase.
kamrangojira from this experiment i used a transparent PAPER COVER and taped it to my laptop screen
I will say, tinting got mentioned over here and it has been very helpful for my car dashboard's PWM.
I ended up using 2 layers of 80% dark tint (96% blocked I think) which works great at night and the PWM is going.
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Hello. Name is Vanessa. I work in Surveillance for a large company in USA. 27F. With nothing being changed, computer, software, anything, since December of 2019 I have been getting debilitating migraines. If I don't get migraines, then I become extremely nauseous. I don't exactly know whats wrong yet. I have tried blue light glasses, night shift mode, taking frequent breaks, using regular glasses vs contacts. I know I have astigmatism which my contacts are for. I have seen my eye doctor for this problem and he doesn't see how it could be anything with eye strain. So far my doctor is sending me to a neurologist because now its become so bad that 20 minutes gives me nausea for over an hour (but of course its going to be a long time since the whole country is shut down). Lately it also happens when watching tv or even being on my phone for a very short time.
I am just a tad bit worried about it. If this problem persists how do I continue with everything becoming digital especially if i want to do any work on a computer.
If anyone has any advice or know what the problem is please share. The nausea can't be helped but the only relief I have found for the migraines is taking caffeine pills that stops it from getting worse but doesn't make it better.
Hi Vanessa, that all sounds quite unpleasant. Unfortunately, generally the best advice from here is to keep a record of which devices trigger your symptoms and see if you notice a pattern. I personally have identified several technologies that give me migraines which I have to avoid.
I can make migraine recommendations though: Feverfew and/or vitamin B2 supplement, both for me increase the time it takes for a bad device to trigger a migraine.