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Hi guys, news about Windows 11 best version for eyes.
I still use 22h1 and It's ok for me
Hi guys, news about Windows 11 best version for eyes.
I still use 22h1 and It's ok for me
For the record; I just have a small separate pc with Win11 22H2 Insider with all updates, but this pc Im connecting to my main pc (Win10 22H2 with all updates) via a capture card, which is an Avermedia Live Gamer Extreme G550.
Im not sure if this method is producing a better environment for the eyes, but personally so far I can tell I don't have any problems (I have problems with new displays and games with the ominous glowing/focusing produced strains).
What I'd like to tell is if you have the opportunity to experiment with such HW trials, give it a try, maybe it can help.
Best for all of you.
glvn Hello! I am here for all the same reasons - eye strain and other stuff. Bafore 2023 never experienced anything similar. In March 23 bought MacBook Pro 14 and sold it in two weeks because it was horrible for my eyes. Now I am on old Lenovo Carbon X1 Gen 5. Bought a new one Lenovo Carbon X1 Gen 10 beacause my old one became slow. After some work on it (Win 11) i found that I have the same symptoms. Installed Ubuntu on it - the same.
I restored laptop to factory defaults and gave it a pause. Yesterday I started again but all the time I was surfing through UEFI BIOS and did not installed any OS!
And I found your 10 question "Do you have any discomfort in UEFI BIOS screen ? (not in OS)". So I am in this case - I feel the same symptoms as in last MacOS (Ventura), last Ubuntu, Win 11 and UEFI BIOS without OS. Is it pointing to something new about OS or cartain laptop or something else?
Thank you
ensete But when UEFI BIOS is "showing me" something (like menus, lists and other options) it is also done by some kind of low level software, mayby some unified display driver. When I connect external displays (i have got two of them) to my old lenovo - everything is OK, but when I connect them to a new Lenovo - i have eye strain. External monitors are the same
recye When I connect external displays (i have got two of them) to my old lenovo - everything is OK, but when I connect them to a new Lenovo - i have eye strain. External monitors are the same
sad but true
now I can only confirm the effect of dithering 1.11 on desktop intel hd630 (windows 7)
try on linux: "% sudo intel_reg_write 0x70008 0xc0000040 # no dither"
does your lenovo carbon x1 gen 5 have hd530 or hd630?
Hi, it is not clear from the above posts…. have you figured out how to revert the changes that get installed after the 22H2 update? I installed it 2 weeks back, it was only the 22H2 update, but uninstalling this feature update AND reverting to a restore point right before this update was unable to remove eye strain I'm now getting with that PC…
machala The restore point thing has never worked for me. It has always incurred errors and left the system unstable, so I dropped it. Instead I used the Control Panel to uninstall all the updates until the OS would return to the last good version and build. However, this has stopped working too and I haven been in pain for the past few months even with 21H2 and a build that used to be good. What has irreversibly changed is the OS Experience. I think that's due to the service stacking updates that cannot be uninstalled, at least via the Control Panel. I tried to find out what a service stacking update effectively does, but I couldn't learn anything from the web.
One last note about the restore point. There's a functionally that allows to check all that has changed between OS as per restore point and OS post-security updates/service stacking updates. I ran the check once and the list of all the edits to the system was infinitely long, including drivers.
Unfortunately I cannot wipe everything off and reinstall Windows as it is a business laptop and I am already "illegally" downgrading updates for what is possible.
AGI However, this has stopped working too and I haven been in pain for the past few months even with 21H2 and a build that used to be good.
@machala These have been the last decent settings for me.
OS build 19044.1889
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.4180.0
The service stacking updated twice since, and I have never been able to cope.
Right now I am on
Version 21H2
OS build 19044.1889
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.19041.1000.0
and it is hell.
For the ones that are certain a windows update is to blame. There should be quite a few sandboxing apps where you can apply the update and see exactly what changed.
Staycalmsyndrome
is this still working?
I have tried it on my thinkpad and now it says update is paused until 2050. If the updates are paused, how can the Drivers/MS Store/Defender be updated?
Defender updates separately. At least mine does.
Moe3224 Drivers also autoupdate separately and are difficult to disable in newer versions of Windows. Maybe this .reg key will help:
reg add "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DriverSearching" /v "SearchOrderConfig" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DriverSearching" /v "DontSearchWindowsUpdate" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f
reg add "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DriverSearching" /v "DriverUpdateWizardWuSearchEnabled" /t REG_DWORD /d "0" /f
reg add "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\PolicyManager\current\device\Update" /v "ExcludeWUDriversInQualityUpdate" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f
reg add "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\PolicyManager\default\device\Update" /v "ExcludeWUDriversInQualityUpdate" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f
reg add "HKLM\Software\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\UX\Settings" /v "ExcludeWUDriversInQualityUpdate" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f
reg add "HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate" /v "ExcludeWUDriversInQualityUpdate" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f
Sunspark you might attract attention from your I.T. staff (they can receive logs saying which device has what updates)
You were rite. I got "caught" and had to hand over my laptop, which was updated to
Edition Windows 10 Pro
Version 22H2
OS build 19045.2965
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.19041.1000.0
Useless to say that I am not going to uninstall updates anymore, so I'd better adjust.
So far it has been hell. I never had migraines before, only twitching, eyestrain and neck pain. I had to take ibuprofen the last two nights to calm my headache down. The headache affected two distinct areas, between the bottom of my head and my neck, and above the left eye, which is my weak eye. The pain around the eye was of the throbbing type. I also had nausea. But the worst problem is that I instantly feel extremely fatigued and slow, minutes after staring at the screen.
It is hard to put in words what the screen feels like. I perceive the image as unsteady, as if it was generated by the superposition of multiple layers. My eyes are like overloaded. Less than a year ago I could use this laptop without problems, it is hard to believe it is the same hardware.
A couple of questions. I noticed that the IT staff did not bother updating the BIOS version and that there is a firmware update pending. Any chance updating everything may make the screen smoother?
Is PWM directly/indirectly affected by OS updates or is solely an hardware parameter? Thanks.