randomboolean Did you test it too? I used it only for 5 minutes and got eyestrain. Not the toxic one that lasts for a couple of days, yet enough to make me want to put it aside immediately. Since then I have not the had the mental strength to turn it on again. I was really convinced it would be smooth like two decades ago. I am losing my patience. I cannot get any device which I tolerate.
In any case, I do not want to make a review based on 5 minute usage but it does not look like a great product...I mean, it would be really a downgrade from any smartphone...

      AGI I have tested in the shop, it seemed OK, but as you say it is a downgrade, not smartphone, and there is not much to test so my results might not be objective. Also last 2 months were hell with my job, I am burned out because had to cover my collegue. Also I had to change my seat, resulting in me getting eye strain from lights... So as I do not have any phone, which I can look at, decided to go with used yotaphone 2. Found barelly used on ebay UK. Hope it will be a solution for now...

          randomboolean sorry about all that. It could be the Nokia is okay for you and others. I should give it another go actually. How is Yotaphone 2? Can you use both sides no problem?

              randomboolean I also got problem with Nokia. Just bought nokia 8, everything seems fine for first few days, but it gradually getting worst. I just realise the screen way too bluish bright than other phone. It hurts my eyes even when dimmed. I use blue light filter apk, but it doesn't help. I think I have to avoid all adreno and snapdragon's phones, they all give me headache. Plan to downgrade to Samsung J3 pro 2017. It uses pls TFT screen, Exynos chipset and mali gpu, hope they suit me.

                  I earlier told I use my new iphone 8 plus without strain. Using it a lot more now I realised its not so good after all. The best phone for me its still samsung s6 and iphone 4s which I still own.

                  AGI It has been only dispatched ~4 hours ago, so haven't tried it yet. It should arrive next week, I will update you guys whenever I have tried it out. Not sure about 3310, it might be good, but I am tired of trying...

                  Lowresaddict I would order it with good return policy, as me and some other guys tried it and it wasn't comfortable for our eyes 🙂

                        randomboolean Thanks for the info. I decided to keep the Nokia 8 and installed anti spy/ privacy screen guard. It acts as dimmer to the screen and makes the screen more comfortable to my eyes, I can use the phone longer than before, so it is enough for now

                            Lowresaddict Could you please share a name or link of the privacy screen guard? It is interesting that it helps and I would like to try it on some problematic phones which I haven't sold yet. 🙂

                              It's interesting, I would love to be able to get my hands on a phone that uses Exynos and Mali... or even Tegra... but even phones like the Samsung J3 use Snapdragon in the USA. It's very frustrating, I think that something about the newer Android versions and Adreno drivers are just... a bad combo. Whether it's compositing, or pixel rendering, or color profiles... who knows?

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                              Screen578 I just found that review, 2 years later, and am surprised. An OLED screen without PWM. There is some fluctuation in their screenshots but they say there is no PWM. The website also lists the Wiko Wim as OLED phone without PWM.

                              A big question is if Microsoft did the same changes that make Windows 10 unusable for some of us to Windows 10 Mobile, too. It may be worth a try.

                                  I never thought there was anything to it but I removed my crappy no name screen protector (supplied by Best Buy, I don’t even know which brand), which was installed the day I got the phone, and my comfortable iP7+ is no longer as comfortable. I noticed the change immediately and even a month later it still causes more strain (felt as muscles contracting around the eye and referring to my temples and the side of my head).

                                  This screen protector was very noticable (not really translucent at all). I don’t know why it helps but like I believe I’ve seen mentioned here it does provide something for your eyes to focus on.

                                    degen It does, read my post in the treatments thread

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                                      The LG G7 ThinQ looks very promising. It just came out, and I had the opportunity to look at a demo model at a kiosk for a minute or so. Screen looked good. Good colour, and backlight seemed 'smooth'. The demo model had a backlight bleed spot between the home button and the recent apps button, apparently most if not all demo models have it, but not all the production models do, so caveat emptor.

                                      I say go check it out.

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                                        Sunspark REALLY. I love the G6, it wasn't perfect. How does the G7's screen compare to the G6?

                                            I just checked the specs on the G7 (which is JUST NOW available from Verizon) and it has Oreo. I am starting to wonder if there's just something about Oreo that makes it better for our eyes?

                                            I'm going to go to my local Verizon store later on and check it out, this makes me VERY excited.

                                            Gurm I didn't like the G6. It wasn't horrible but it still felt off to me. The resolution between the G6 and G7 is not the same, however the PPI is the same. Curious to see what you thought.

                                              Talking about OLED devices here (the G7 is a traditional LCD), while I haven't seen it in person the LG V30 catches my interest as well. While obviously not PWM free, the dips are low amplitude and the line stays relatively flat.

                                              This is in comparison to the Iphone X below where only 50% brightness is desirable here.

                                              And of course, Samsungs are just straight up trash. Note 8 shown here.

                                              These graphs are from a Russian review site, ixbt.com

                                                Sunspark Have you seen the iPhone X? Lot's of people are having issues with it.

                                                    JTL My mother has one. It's probably fine at 50%, but I wouldn't want it for myself.

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