degen The thing is PWM which is sinusoidal. Much better to the eyes, brain than the digital PWM.

    oxlr I had an M7 which was perfect to my eyes.
    I had a problem with GPS, then it was sent to repair. For some reason they change the display. The display was much color saturated, and colder white balance. It was horrible, to my eyes. The worst display i saw in life. I sent it back to HTC and said i want my LCD back. They change it, not for the old, but a similar one. It was OK again.
    The phone its pretty unusable. I bought the Xperia XZ 2 on black friday. It's an amazing phone, but not eye friendly. My eyes sore. I will try a few day longer and see if i can manage, but i dont think it will possible.

    The curious thing is that if i only look at it with the left eye, i can use it way more. My right eye is more sensible, maybe. Or is a binocular problem. Have to check my eyes on a doctor.

      tfouto "LTPS IPS LCD capacitive touchscreen" --> this is pretty generic and it not a specific panel, right?

          ryans LTPS IPS LCD is a technology, different from others.

            I was playing with some 3d cinema glasses. Some really cheap ones. One they gave me once i was seeing a 3D movie.
            I tried on my Sony XZ 2 (eye-strain phone) and discovered that the left lens has a different effect then the right one.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl_9Mj--tKk&feature=youtu.be

            When i rotate the lens on the phone it seems it goes on all spectrum. Maybe the phone polarization makes this. The violet and blue part are really strong, and green and red are not percitible, instead it's more yellow. Maybe the spectrum is like the blue white led, and the blue spectrum is really strong.
            Or it might be that the phone just polarizes blue spectrum differently than green and red, maybe the coating on glass/polarizer, changes the way red and green works.
            When i look to from my glasses to Sony, it seems to me that the more accute pain is when i am on the violet/blue part. I feel pain and my leg twiching. That's one of the neurological effects that i suspect blue light is triggering.

            On my old HTC one, the polarization is different, so the it changes from a subtle blue to subtle warm, and in a certain angle it becomes color spiral intense. And it's the same on both lenses. Right and left.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTzU4aXYgw0&feature=youtu.be

            I will try to go to shopping and go play with those glasses and phones, and check if i can discovere anything.
            I will try to understand if other phones like the iphone XS has the red and green component so strong has the blue on Sony. If it's polorized on the same way. Maybe those glasses just polarize the blue spectrum more intense, i dont know.

            Aside from trying Skinomi Matte and trying cf.lumen, any other ideas to make the LG G7 usable? Tried my Dad's Galaxy S9+ for about 30 minutes, seems much better than the LG G7.

              ryans I know you didn't ask for it but my advice is don't try and force the problematic device.

                  degen Yeah I agree. I'm starting to run desperate here 🙁

                      ryans I've been burned a couple times now by trying to make the latest premium smartphone work. Now I'm paying for one over two years and I have to try and sell it for greatly reduced value. Feels bad. From now on I'm just going to experiment with budget Android phones or well used phones.

                        It's nice to know i'm not alone in the world, having eyes that are sensitive to PWM flicker sucks!

                        Phone's i've had a success with...

                        • Xperia Z5
                        • HTC 10

                        Recently I purchased a Xaomi Mi Mix 2, it's giving me really sore eyes but none of the other usual symptoms of nausea or headaches.

                        Anyone tried a HTC U11?

                        I'm torn. I kind of want to buy an HTC 10 and downgrade it, but the reality is they have HORRIBLE battery issues and replacing the battery is a nightmare, so it'd be a bad solution.

                          Gurm I will have to buy a new phone, since my Xperia XZ 2 is a no go for my eyes. Is a really good phone, super fast and the battery is incredible.

                          I am thinking between HTC 10 and Xiaomi A2. Maybe Xiaomi A1. Yes battery is not as good as my XZ 2, but hopefully i can use it.

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                              tfouto I hear the HTC 10 is good, if you can get a new one and unlock it, you can probably downgrade it all the way to Lollipop if needed.

                                  Gurm In my experience on HTC One (m7), one panel was fine, the other was horrible. So maybe in HTC 10 is the same case.

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                                      tfouto I hear tell HTC One M8 was the same - certainly the two I have are both fine but I know there were several screen iterations.

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