Usable Smartphones?
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I have given up on smartphones for a variety of reasons besides eye fatigue, which I won't ramble about here.
As far as I'm aware, all e-ink smartphones, such as models from Hisense, don't work in the United States. I'd greatly appreciate anyone proving me otherwise, though.
I'm crossing my fingers there will someday exist RLCD phones, but I'm certainly not waiting until Hell freezes over for one.
I'll probably just use a Mudita Pure until 4G phases out, at which point I'll certainly have much more to worry about than silly phones anyway
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Clokwork advertising ultra high Hz PWM? That's a new one. Refreshing after all the bullshit other manufacturers such as Apple adding in more blue light settings after people started having eye fatigue from OLED after switching from strictly LCD phones- instead of admitting the low <230Hz PWM of the new OLED iPhones was largely at fault and blue light emission was hardly worse than their old LCD phones.
Obviously, the industry is full of slimeballs, so the little rarities of honesty are nice.
Sunspark I am curious about the S7FE tablet. Did you have another look at it? I am currently located in Greece and no store has it to have a look at it. I only find it online for purchase. I want to buy a tablet with a large screen to review financial information on the fly and this seems promising.
I am curious about the iPhone SE 2022. It has a pwm free screen so shouldn´t be a problem for most of us.
Although i had issues with my iphone 8 after updating from about ios 14.7. Now that the SE 2022 uses another soc i am curious if something might be fixed for people like me getting headache from LCD iphones after 14.7
Anyone try this yet
Icook Gonna pick up one in a couple of days and report here the results. I currently have an iphone 8 as i cannot tolerate iphone 11 nor the se 2020. I have the latter from my job and that's manageble since i don't look at it for long time. As a primary device however, had debilitating headaches.
I saw many people here reporting that some Realme phones are usable, especially Realme 7 5G, 8 5G and x50, and some xiaomi phones like note 10 5G and M3 pro 5G. Any updates on it ? My beloved xperia x compact is almost dead now 
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Hi folks,
I just wanted to update with an iPhone 13 success story! As I detailed in another thread, I purchased an iPhone 13 Pro and initially thought it was great. I used it continuously for a few days, and suddenly I had the same old spiralling migraines and nausea. Left eye pain, neck pain and all the trimmings. This got returned.
A couple of months later, and I decided to pick up an iPhone 13 (not Pro). This time:
- I immediately put this matte screen protector on it
- I started very gently - 10 mins at a time for a few days
- I gradually built up my time on the phone over a week
I'm now 10 weeks in with this phone and I'm using it continuously without any issues at all. I can't believe it, I actually have less issues than with my iPhone 8 which I have tried to replace with both the SE and the 13 Pro previously.
As a side note I still can't play games on it - even 15 minutes seems to start giving me issues.
Could the tempered glass matt screen protector be making a difference? Or the lack of Pro Motion maybe - this phone is running at 60hz rather than 120hz? Seems strange, but this is the first OLED product I've ever been able to use.
Iphone SE 2022 seems to be exactly like the iphone SE 2020. Got the same symptoms after a few hours of use. I already started the return and went back to the Iphone 8. I could have tried a bit longer to see if I could adjust to it I suppose, but did not really to go through the ordeal. In total I tried it for less than a day.
The phone itself is snappy fast, great battery, great pictures, but fundamentally it did not really feel like a price worthy upgrade over the 8. I prefer to spend the money somewhere else and avoid the headaches.
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Icook I made the jump from 8 to SE but think that they are still different. I feel more comfortable with ip 8, but SE is still usable for me. You should try the SE thoroughly before buying.
Try rog phone 2, very comfortable in my eyes, no eye strain
Sorry bad english
Well, some weeks ago I had the opportunity to sell my motorola one fusion at a good price and I did (I don't know if it was a stupid decision knowing it was almost "okay" for my eyes... but I just couldn't get over the weight of the phone, it was pretty uncomfortable to hold)
Then I purchased an old cheap "backup" phone that I will use for some weeks/months until I find the perfect phone to replace my old fusion.
That cheap phone is the Motorola e5 play (go edition) from 2018/19
And yes, I was aware this model has low frequency pwm... but it was the cheapest phone I could find and I was thinking it would be okay to use it for some time.... well... I was wrong lol.
This is the worst phone I ever had regarding eye strain, it is even worse than my old s3 mini with Amoled (and worst than others LCD screens I had tried in the past, even pwm ones) is pretty obvious there is something more in this (dithering... or maybe is the low contrast or something).
Now I have a constant eye strain, pain and one of my eyes is always red. I don't think this phone is even available in other countries, but be aware just in case.
Well, now back on topic... the realme 8 5g is still available here in my city.... but I am thinking of waiting a little more now that there are "potential" more interesting options coming...to replace my old fusion (realme 9 pro, 9 5g or the new honor x9 5g) just waiting to Notebookcheck and this forum to see if they are really 100% flicker free...at least (i know there could be other problems...but there is not way to try the phones before buying here :/ )
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I know 1 guy at Ledstrain has found LG G5 usable. So I tried it too. Unusable for me - can only use it for about 20 minutes (and that's after I take my eye pills).
I measured its PWM. It has PWM at about 40% brightness and under. The PWM frequency is 2300Hz.
Just a note, I have been keeping a spreadsheet of phones that I have tried that have worked for and have not, and unfortunately, I have not been able to find ANY technical similarity between them all. They all have various resolutions, color depth, display type, chipsets, operating systems, etc.
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Nokia G21, PWM? Actual experience from the screen. Not from Notebookcheck review… thanks
…or MOTOROLA MOTO E40
Bought Motorola Moto E40. No PWM. At least in my phone. Brightness level at 0 all the time.