Is there a confirmed list of phones that are suitable then? It seems even in Wiki we don't have a definitive list.

I'm looking to buy a like-new Honor 8X. Anyone have any problems with this unit?

    K-Moss

    Just checked the contrast and it's 880:1 and black level over 0.50 so I reckon it will be very good and comfortable. Maybe have a look at one in a phone shop if possible. I have no problems with my honour 20 and had it for a couple of years now

        DAVEGEO

        Can you confirm if the Honor 8X is still compatible with Google Play?

            K-Moss

            Judging by some of the reviews I've seen it isnt compatible out of the box but you can install with a workaround but I wouldn't be happy with that. As an alternative I've bought oppo A72 phones for my in laws and they are a great phone with contrast at 913:1 and black level 0.55. I've seen them after I set them up and the screen is nice and comfortable and large. Also has Google play as standard.

            https://www.notebookcheck.net/Oppo-A72-Smartphone-Review-The-affordable-Oppo-smartphone-turns-out-an-endurance-champion.483918.0.html

            Have a look

              Any recs for phones that aren't huge? Anything over 5.5 inches feels to big to me but everything out there seems to be 6.5 inches or more. I don't want to hold a roofing tile up to the side of my face

                ensete

                In my opinion, you don't want to hold any cell phone to your head. I always plug in ear pieces with a mic or else use a bluetooth device. Given that, the bigger size of 6.5" and larger helps productivity when using the phone as a mini computer.

                    K-Moss

                    I don't use headphones or airpods or anything. 6.5 inches, to me at least is to large to hold comfortably in one hand or fit in a pocket.

                      Although it is a very limited mobile phone compared to today's alternatives I can use OPPO A52 with full ease.

                      Dropped using several phones including Apple, Sony, LG etc. models. Now hopefully I may find a phone with the same screen in better specs.

                      Leaving this info here since it may help someone as well.

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                        HAL9000

                        Iphone 11 with reduced whitepoint to 55%, reduced transparency and increased contrast works for me. (It has 0 PWM also).

                          Ok so - after years of battling PWM/Eye strain/headaches, and then reading immense research into the issue -

                          Personally, I've realised I react negatively to all amoled/oled smartphones, regardless of whether they are high refresh rates, or incorporate DC dimming.

                          LCD helps/improves - however some LCDs also flicker.

                          I don't trust Notebookcheck anymore - so i test devices myself using external cameras/slow motion recording etc to detect flickering.

                          After buying and selling countless phones - the ones I've personally found to be absolutely flicker free are:

                          Redmi note 9T

                          Honor view 20

                          Realme x50 5g

                          Huawei P40 Lite 5g model (not the 4g model)

                          All four of these handsets, especially the P40 lite 5g and honor view 20 models, are very comfortable on my eyes and I have detected no flickering.

                          I use a separate blue light filter app on them too, as the inbuilt filters on all four of these handsets weren't great.

                          The other handset worth mentioning are the oppo a74 5g and a54 5g. They both flicker when set to under 10-15% brightness, but no flickering detected above that. They are also 90hz, and their in built blue light filters are very very effective.

                          I purchased the moto g 5g plus after trusting notebookcheck, last year, and after conducting my own tests (after experiencing strange eye fatigue while using the device), I detected flicker at brightness set under 75%. 75% and above, there is no flickering - but constantly having the device set at that level of brightness, while using a light filter app - drained battery fast, and just was not very practicle to use as an every day device.

                          Overall, it's sad to say, but none of the high quality expensive phones by the leading manufacturers work with my eyes. They Are all horrid eye fatigue causing oled/amoled flickering tech. I hate them all!

                          I'm happy with these cheaper budget handsets, but there is a compromise in camera quality, processor speed and gaming ;(

                          However- they solved my eye fatigue/strain/headache issues! So I can scroll, read and surf, browse, social media etc without pretty much any issues.

                          I just hope they continue to use LCD tech in newer models. I'm keen to test out the new redmi note 10 5g as notebookcheck has said there is no PWM and the screen is dull (which sounds like a dream to me lol). But I want to test the PWM myself. I'll keep you all posted!

                            The other compromise which I should mention with these cheaper handsets, are connectivity. The wifi and data speeds (though not bad overall) are no way as high as the expensive amoled models.

                            I just wish the manufacturers would make a high quality flicker free LCD based high end model, with the latest high end processor and good camera etc. It's such a shame they all opt for awful PWM amoled/oled tech for their flagship displays.

                            I really don't understand peoples fascination with with amoled/oled. Color accuracy is abysmal, and colors are an over saturated untrue to life, mess.

                              Jackeyestrained

                              Have you tried to look at a screen that doesn’t work for you with one eye covered? Better or worse?

                                Jackeyestrained

                                The oversaturated vivid mode is a setting. I have mine in normal/basic mode which is sRGB. I can't use the oversaturated setting, it looks too garish but the "boosted" setting Pixels have is fine too, it's sRGB but with a 10% saturation increase.

                                Speaking of Pixels, Google made a custom chipset of their own for the upcoming Pixel 6 so they won't be using Qualcomm anymore.

                                  I currently own and use without any issues Samsung A70 (Android 9). Interestingly yesterday i used A21s (Android 10) for the whole day without any issues and today i am totally fine. Seems like Samsung's A series may be worthwhile to check for some people.

                                  Note that i cant use Samsung's S series at all, i get eye strain right away.

                                  Jackeyestrained Redmi note 9T

                                  Honor view 20

                                  Realme x50 5g

                                  Huawei P40 Lite 5g model (not the 4g model)

                                  All 6.5 inches. Sigh

                                    s_u_

                                    I dropped and cracked the screen.

                                    So I bought a new A52 one from another vendor. Unfortunately, apparently they don't have same type of panels. Brand new one is not comfortable to use at all. There is this new type of LCD panel which is more smooth, yellowish and buttery. Those ones cause problems as well as OLEDs. I have two devices same brand same model same year production holding completely different screen panels.

                                    New tech screens getting more frustrating and expensive for me.

                                        s_u_

                                        I've experienced this many times. Same device, same model, same specs, and different hardware components making one usuable and another unusable even though they should be the same thing.

                                        Manufacturers source different components for different production runs and that can result in very different experiences.

                                          I am trying to find a suitable android device for me. The list isn't that big… Having a phone that isn't 2-3 android OS generations ago seems hard to find. It's sad to not be able to both take care of eyes and have a good camera phone.

                                          I was wondering if any has experience with

                                          • Motorola One Vision which has a gigantic front camera whole and is quite tall but at least is narrower and from reviews it doesn't seem that bad and is also cheap
                                          • Motorola G100 which seems so so tall… but it's newer and has good specs

                                          I may just throw the towel and go for iphone 11.

                                            ban

                                            The only phone I have found that aren't huge and you can get running older Android OS's are some BLU phones. They are a budget unlocked phone supplier and can be found on Amazon

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