Are we all men?

Seagull

As in the title, I think almost all the posts I see on this forum are from men. There could be some sociological or cultural reasons for that, but a quick google tells me estrogen might protect the brain from harm and injury.

https://www.google.com/search?q=estrogen+neuroprotection

ZenXLaika

Seagull I'm a 22y woman..i think anyone can be affected by ledstrain…there's just not much awareness on it among more women I think..i just recently developed ledstrain a few months ago because of this particular asus model and my astigmatism, gave me photophobia, migraine and dry eyes for life..

For some women hormones can also cause problems in the body honestly, since I already had sensitive af eyes and immune system it was fate I guess..

Seagull

Oops, guess I am not paying enough attention

Sunspark

There are some women here, but it is also true that women generally have a higher pain tolerance and are also conditioned to not complain about things.

In anycase, lots of women have eyestrain too, you just don't hear from them.

dollarslice

Nope - i'm a 45 y.o woman. Women are much more likely to have migraines/more severe and frequent migraines so I would suspect they are more likely to have issues like this, since it seems related for a lot of people. But maybe less likely to seek out an internet forum in an era where internet forums are pretty unpopular. I'm on a Facebook group about photophobia where lights and screens are a frequent trigger, and I would guess it's majority women.

Vividblu99

A lot of women that I've come across rarely make the association between their smartphone use and their headaches, eyestrain and fatigue issues.

They've always put it down to other female health related factors.

Two distant female family members and one close female friend were all experiencing similar issues with headaches and fatigue - and they were all using amoled/oled devices.

I made the correlation and explained the issue maybe attributed to their devices. I lent them some of my LCD phones to use temporarily - and literally the effects were miraculous - almost over night - their symptoms disappeared.

They have not all totally refrained from using their amoled phones, because the camera's produce higher quality photos and videos, however for general web browsing, youtube & netflix etc - they use pwm free phones that I've recommended, when they're at home.

They've also shared this information with their own friends - and from the feedback I've received - the issue seems to be a lot wider spread than we realize, and it's affecting many women just as much as men.

K-Moss

Vividblu99 "however for general web browsing, youtube & netflix etc - they use pwm free phones that I've recommended, when they're at home."

Why would one use a phone as a computer system at one's home?

For home use surely a desktop computer is far superior?

Out of the home, OLED screens are far more readable in daylight vs LCD.

I found this thread because I was wondering why communities like this seem extremely male-dominated. Where are the women?

Vividblu99

There is also this female YouTuber who has raised awareness to the issue:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ4otiLERds

jen

I’m a woman and the majority, but certainly not all, of the people I’ve met in real life who also have health issues caused by LEDs are women - but there’s the bias that I meet a lot of educators who tend to more commonly be women. Everyone I’ve heard of outside of this forum (so some demographics known) with brain symptoms at least as bad or worse than my long-lasting concussion-like symptoms happens to be a woman, but the numbers are too small to infer much. Hopefully some legitimate medical and public health research on this can start soon. I’ve tried to start a survey for us in the meantime to collect info about ourselves in an organized way that is still open - posted at www.FlickerSense.org.

ensete

K-Moss I found this thread because I was wondering why communities like this seem extremely male-dominated. Where are the women?

Honest question, who cares? Why does the gender of the sufferer have anything to do with anything? There has never been any correlation between symptoms, treatments, and gender, o I fail to see why it matters at all.

AshX

ensete

It definitely makes a difference. Certain diseases are more prevalent in men than women, and vice versa. It’s perfectly reasonable - and actually important - to ask whether or not men are more affected than women. Any decent scientist would ask the same as it would play a role in determining possible treatment or risk factors.

Tech communities are notoriously male dominated, as is the tech industry. That’s not me being woke - it’s just fact. So the question at hand seems to be whether men are more likely to develop these sensitivities to flicker and screens (which would indicate a sex-based predisposition) or if it’s just that men are more likely to frequent online tech communities and therefore more likely to make complaints about screens there. From the comments in this thread it seems like it is the latter.

JTL

AshX Tech communities are notoriously male dominated, as is the tech industry. That’s not me being woke - it’s just fact. So the question at hand seems to be whether men are more likely to develop these sensitivities to flicker and screens (which would indicate a sex-based predisposition) or if it’s just that men are more likely to frequent online tech communities and therefore more likely to make complaints about screens there. From the comments in this thread it seems like it is the latter.

Exactly. I think I'll be brief, but I think some people have tried to claim "a lack of women" in this community and have attempt to draw some (false) correlations regarding medical incidence of that issue based on that fact.

Sunspark

Women are accustomed to and have a higher pain tolerance than men too, so that's on top of the how the internet is used.

There have been women here before, and I have seen women who have had problems with screens elsewhere on the net. They definitely exist.

K-Moss

Sunspark Pain tolerance issue really? The medical forums are full of women complaining about all kinds of bodily ailments.

It's bizarre reading women have a higher pain tolerance than men. Men have consistently been doing the most physically demanding jobs. You suppose women make better coal miners and firemen?

reaganry

women do have some different eye circuitry -rods and cones etc