Eyelights

AGI

Has anyone tried this product or a similar one?

https://brainhub.com.au/product/eyelights/

Thanks.

Tobiyas

It sounds suspicious to me for they are making such bold claims without referencing to any research study.

If you wish to have a "taste" of red and blue light flickering, just google

"TV Cartoon's Flashes Send 600 Japanese Into Seizures"

Here is additional reading as well

https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/revisiting-the-pokemon-panic-at-25/

Indeed, there may be some theoretical basis to increasing tolerance to red/blue flickering in adults. However, considering that you are in this forum because you are strained by LED, I wouldn't recommend anyone here to do so. Furthermore, you are attempting this therapy unsupervised without a professional.

There are little scentific studies that this does work. In fact, there were reports of people getting unwell from going through this.

I am sorry to say this but your tolerance to flicker and contrasting lightwaves were no different from the japanese children mentioned in the article. Your body was not able to develop to grow out of the "super sensitivity" commonly found in developing children.

I would suggest you look into the root of the deficiency in your body as to why you share similar characteristic as sensitive children, rather than relying on these experimental devices to rewire your receptors.

A complete blood count test would be a good start.

AGI

Tobiyas Thanks for the link. That's scary. Are you aware of any more recent episode of mass epilepsy (that one happened in 1997)?

I have been looking for the root cause of my problems for several years and have been to countless specialists of all sorts and I don't start any cure without medical approval and supervision. I only wanted to know if someone here tried that device as a behavioral optometrist told me it could be a resource.

How would a CBC help? All the test I took, including blood ones, always came back negative/within the limits.

Tobiyas

How would a CBC help?

A complete blood test might give an a lead to what your body is lacking and thus you have all these symptoms typically found in younger children.

For instance, from your cbc you found a pattern that most blood cells that corresponds to iron tend to be the borderline low side, it shows that you are within range, but low in iron.

Low in iron coincidently has been found to increase light sensitivity.

https://naomedical.com/blog/low-iron-and-vision-how-anemia-can-affect-your-eyesight/

(Above is just an example)

Think of light sensitivity is to camera shutter speed. If the average human shutter speed is 6000 hertz, or 1/12500 per second, and your light sensitivity caused you to heightened till 19000 hertz, or 40000 per second. With such fast shutter speed, you will cognitively pick up the flicker much more obvious compared to others without light sensitivity.

Thus for others it is just a mild eyestrain that would quickly go away after using. But if you have light sensitivity, you might even have red, sore eyes with just 10 minutes of using the same screen.

AGI

Tobiyas I did not know about iron deficiency affecting vision. However, as a job requirement I take CBC at least once a year if not twice, and I never had a single value outside the limits. Last year I also happened to undertake specific iron studies (iron, transferrin, saturation, ferritin) due to asthenia. Everything turned out to be absolutely normal.

I have seen eye doctors, neuro-ophthalmologists, orthoptists, behavioral optometrists, GPs, neurologists, osteopaths, physiotherapists, chiropractors, naturopaths, dry eye specialists in four countries from America to Asia, and I am probably forgetting someone. I did acupuncture weekly for 2 years with modest outcome. I tried neuro-rehabilitation. I have been doing vision therapy for 2.5 years because the only conclusion that has come out from all those investigations is that I have a small degree of heterophoria. That has considerably improved by doing exercises. Yet, I have zero confidence I can handle modern devices and lighting. A Windows update that billions of people do not even notice or a fancy LED lamp can be a drama for me.
Not blaming who tried to help me, one thing I learnt is that this journey is close to "mission impossible", because there is no specific knowledge in the medical and tech world, and, sadly, there does not seem to be much interest in developing such knowledge.

Tobiyas

AGI Right, I am sorry to hear that you have struggles and were not able to your answers you seek.

Sometimes its the very little small thing your body has attempted to signal to you but you probably were not aware, because you might have been told what you have experienced is normal.

For instance, for the longest time I have suffered from pulsation tinnitus and pain and throughout my life I've been told this symptom is "normal", and every one has it. I assure you that it is very annoying and the noise is so loud it is simply no way to shut it off. I've been prescribed with Ginkgo Biloba and vitamin E supplements which obviously were placebo effects since those only would be effective for general tinnitus sufferers.

This pulsation tinnitus and pain usually becomes even much worse when I am exposed to flickering lights from OLED or fluorescent lighting.

It was only recently I found my community of similar sufferers and from there I identified that pulsation tinnitus is not normal for everyone. Following that, I was able to isolate the cause being that I lack vitamin b12, hence of those loud pulsing sounds and swollen pain. I took vitamin b12 daily and now they are gone. Even after exposure to flickering, there is no more TICK !!, TICK !!,TICK !!,TICK !! sound ringing in my ear when I attempt to sleep.

This for instance was not detected in CBC, or informed to me throughout my years of following up with various specialists from different fields. CBC however did give me a clue through its patterns.

You'll need to find your own community that is also struggling with health issues and I assure you, LEDstrain is not the community for you to look for the root of your problem.

And don't be so fixated in wanting an immediate answer yeah.

Sometimes the things you seek is just right under your very nose and its more so when you are so fixated on getting an answer that you'll missed out the small and little symptoms your body has been attempting to signal to you, over the last few decades.

AGI

Tobiyas I have had tinnitus too, so I know how disturbing it is. In my case it was caused by enormous stress and long work hours in very noise environments. It went away on its own. It came back recently due to my hypersensitivity to environmental pollution but it faded quickly.

Tobiyas And don't be so fixated in wanting an immediate answer yeah.

But it's been forever. I can't wait much longer or I'll be without a job.

Tobiyas Sometimes the things you seek is just right under your very nose and its more so when you are so fixated on getting an answer that you'll missed out the small and little symptoms your body has been attempting to signal to you, over the last few decades.

I wish it were so, but I'm a bit pessimistic after so many years hunting for the cause(s). Anyhow, thanks for your wishes.