Gurm It's been a while since I used W10 and I know there's tweak tools but I thought big updates like Creators Update brought Cortana etc back. Like @Sunspark said I'm not a fan of the SAAS model either, but as long as I have control over updates to some degree I'm happy (might look into the LTSB version).

  • Gurm replied to this.

    diop no tweak tools. Just built-in MS command lines such as removeapppackage. However, you're probably right that it will come back with major updates. Yet another reason I use LTSB.

      Gurm Not meaning to sidetrack, but at home why even use LTSB at all? Why not 8.1 or 7?

      For me, on Surface there's no other option, at least official . With some hacks 7 or 8 might be possible, but I guess more issues will be present because of non-standard drivers, etc.

      22 days later

      Has someone ever tried the new notebooks with oled screens? maybe they could be good for our eyes...

        Lauda89 All OLED laptops I've researched are known to have 60Hz modulation/flicker, so possibly a no-go for some folks.

          6 months later

          Staycalmsyndrome Hey @KM just noticed this reference to Android 7.1.2 by @Staycalmsyndrome, specifically without patches after 2018, to be comfortable for him ("Android 7.1.2 with patches > 2018 = QQ"). His tablet is also on 7.1.2 So Paranoid Android dev left out or forgot some patches that OnePlus team applied, as we suspected.

          3 months later

          What works decently for me

          • Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3610ME CPU @ 2.70GHz (4 CPUs), 2.7GHz
            Operating System: Windows Embedded Standard 32-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850)
            Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
            Driver File Version: 9.17.0010.2932
            Monitor Model: S1703
            Native Mode: 1024 x 768(p) (60Hz)
            Current Mode: 1280 x 1024(p) (60Hz)
            Output Type: DVI

          • Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (8 CPUs), 3.5GHz
            Operating System: Windows 10 Home 32-bit (10.0, Build 17763) (17763.rs5_release.180914-1434)
            Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
            Driver File Version: 10.18.10.4358
            Monitor Model: DELL P2312H
            Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60Hz)
            Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (60Hz)
            Output Type: DVI-D
            REMARK: I can clearly notice pixel glowing / fuzziness but for some reason I can handle this setup (at least it does not add on eystrain to the one already caused by the overhead lamps)

          • Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU W3530 @ 2.80GHz (4 CPUs), 2.8GHz
            Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_ldr.180810-0600)
            Card name: NVIDIA Quadro NVS 295
            Driver File Version: 8.16.0011.9175
            Monitor Model: Dell P190S(Digital)
            Native Mode: 1280 x 1024(p) (60.020Hz)
            Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
            Output Type: DVI

          • Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz (4 CPUs), 2.7GHz
            Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_ldr.170209-0600)
            Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 710
            Monitor Model: DELL UP3017
            Native Mode: 2560 x 1600(p) (59.972Hz)
            Current Mode: 2560 x 1600 (32 bit) (60Hz)
            Driver File Version: 10.18.0013.5921
            Output Type: HDMI
            REMARK: Needed to adjust to the huge monitor!

          • Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz (8 CPUs), 3.4GHz
            Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise 64-bit (10.0, Build 17134)
            Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
            Driver File Version: 20.19.0015.4454
            Monitor Model: DELL E1916H
            Native Mode: 1366 x 768(p) (59.790Hz)
            Current Mode: 1366 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
            Output Type: HD15 (VGA)
            REMARKS: Not particularly pleasant, but display settings (which I cannot adjust) may worsen the experience.

          • Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU W3550 @ 3.07GHz (4 CPUs), 3.1GHz
            Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)
            Card name: AMD FirePro V3900 (ATI FireGL)
            Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1103
            Monitor Model: DELL PA241W
            Native Mode: 1920 x 1200(p) (59.950Hz)
            Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
            Output Type: DVI

          • Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4160 CPU @ 3.60GHz (4 CPUs), 3.6GHz
            Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.151230-0600)
            Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4400
            Driver File Version: 10.18.14.4280
            Monitor Model: DELL E2416H
            Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
            Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
            Output Type: HD15 (VGA)


          Usable devices for me at the moment without problems:

          Microsoft Surface Laptop 2 i5/8GB/256
          HP Chromebook HP-14DB0006AU
          External Monitors 27" 2k BenQ BL2710, 32" 2k, Philips Brilliance 328B

          Devices with workarounds
          Smartphone LG v50 (although needs to have OLED Saver app running for indoor use i.e. brightness less than 62%)
          Smartphone LG v30 ( brightness above 42%)
          Notebook Thinkpad Yoga 460 FHD IPS screen (brightness above 50%)

          Sometimes problematic
          I'm alternating between the two, as one becomes worse than the other over time

          • HP Envy 15 x360 (older AMD version - oldest usable drivers, never updated from 1803)
          • MSI Apache GE62 (hd530, gtx960m, also 1803)

          Smartphones

          • iPod Touch 4gen (quite comfortable, although my iPhone 4 is not)
          • Nokia Lumia 650 (1703, tires my eyes fast, but no pain and strong discomfort)

          Tried HTC M7, One X - worse than these two above
          Moto G 1st gen, Samsung A6, A5 2017, J3 2016 - absolutely disastrous

            K-Moss Yeah, suprisingly Lumia 550 with IPS was worse than this (allegedly PWM-free) AMOLED screen.
            Same OS on both.

            So should I get a Lumia 650? Is it much more comfortable for your eyes and brain versus most other phones?

            EDIT: You were saying the Lumia you have tires your eyes fast. I thought 1703 was referring to a different model rather than the software you're using on it.

            OK, so it's not a very good option, just barely adequate.

            • zlhr replied to this.

              K-Moss Yes, it's not something that I would like to end with, still looking for something better.
              1703 is just the windows build number

              Ryzen 7 2700X
              Windows 7 64bit Service Pack 1
              Nvidia Quadro K6000(Kepler)
              Nvidia Quadro Driver 347.52(Last version before Maxwell)
              DVI Connection with standard DVI cable.
              Eizo FlexScan L997(ripped off Anti-Glare film by myself)
              100% Brightness(No PWM) with OSD Color gain control to 50 ~ 60cd/m2, 6500k or 5500k temperature
              (Day: 60cd at 6500k, Night 50cd at 5500k) via Color Calibration(using i1 display pro with DisplayCAL software).

              To me
              major culprit is Anti-Glare film of the monitor.
              No other video card but Kepler.
              Latest Nvidia driver slightly affect my eye strain.
              No Windows 10
              No Intel CPU(I don't know why)

              <Problem - Solution>

              PWM - 100% Brightness setting
              High Brightness - Gain control
              Dithering(OS) - Windows 7
              Dithering(Videocard) - Nvidia Kepler Architecture Card
              Light Diffusion(Heavy AG coating) - Peel off AG film

              I'd like to know what hector is using these days. He was previously trying all kinds of things and finding very good relief with a previous generation BenQ VA.

                a month later

                SeniorTaquito My S8 does not bother me either. idk why. It could have something to do with my screen protector. Or possibly because it's an OLED. I'm not sure.

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