Gurm It's been a while since I used W10 and I know there's tweak tools but I thought big updates like Creators Update brought Cortana etc back. Like @Sunspark said I'm not a fan of the SAAS model either, but as long as I have control over updates to some degree I'm happy (might look into the LTSB version).
What works for you, what do you use now without problems?
For me, on Surface there's no other option, at least official . With some hacks 7 or 8 might be possible, but I guess more issues will be present because of non-standard drivers, etc.
Has someone ever tried the new notebooks with oled screens? maybe they could be good for our eyes...
JTL Have you tried the new oled smartphone display with dc dimming option?
eyestrainsolutions No. Because no smartphone with DC dimming is available on display where I live
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Staycalmsyndrome Hey @KM just noticed this reference to Android 7.1.2 by @Staycalmsyndrome, specifically without patches after 2018, to be comfortable for him ("Android 7.1.2 with patches > 2018 = QQ"). His tablet is also on 7.1.2 So Paranoid Android dev left out or forgot some patches that OnePlus team applied, as we suspected.
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What works decently for me
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3610ME CPU @ 2.70GHz (4 CPUs), 2.7GHz
Operating System: Windows Embedded Standard 32-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850)
Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
Driver File Version: 9.17.0010.2932
Monitor Model: S1703
Native Mode: 1024 x 768(p) (60Hz)
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024(p) (60Hz)
Output Type: DVIProcessor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (8 CPUs), 3.5GHz
Operating System: Windows 10 Home 32-bit (10.0, Build 17763) (17763.rs5_release.180914-1434)
Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
Driver File Version: 10.18.10.4358
Monitor Model: DELL P2312H
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60Hz)
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (60Hz)
Output Type: DVI-D
REMARK: I can clearly notice pixel glowing / fuzziness but for some reason I can handle this setup (at least it does not add on eystrain to the one already caused by the overhead lamps)Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU W3530 @ 2.80GHz (4 CPUs), 2.8GHz
Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_ldr.180810-0600)
Card name: NVIDIA Quadro NVS 295
Driver File Version: 8.16.0011.9175
Monitor Model: Dell P190S(Digital)
Native Mode: 1280 x 1024(p) (60.020Hz)
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Output Type: DVIProcessor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz (4 CPUs), 2.7GHz
Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_ldr.170209-0600)
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 710
Monitor Model: DELL UP3017
Native Mode: 2560 x 1600(p) (59.972Hz)
Current Mode: 2560 x 1600 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Driver File Version: 10.18.0013.5921
Output Type: HDMI
REMARK: Needed to adjust to the huge monitor!Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz (8 CPUs), 3.4GHz
Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise 64-bit (10.0, Build 17134)
Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Driver File Version: 20.19.0015.4454
Monitor Model: DELL E1916H
Native Mode: 1366 x 768(p) (59.790Hz)
Current Mode: 1366 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Output Type: HD15 (VGA)
REMARKS: Not particularly pleasant, but display settings (which I cannot adjust) may worsen the experience.Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU W3550 @ 3.07GHz (4 CPUs), 3.1GHz
Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)
Card name: AMD FirePro V3900 (ATI FireGL)
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1103
Monitor Model: DELL PA241W
Native Mode: 1920 x 1200(p) (59.950Hz)
Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Output Type: DVIProcessor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4160 CPU @ 3.60GHz (4 CPUs), 3.6GHz
Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.151230-0600)
Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4400
Driver File Version: 10.18.14.4280
Monitor Model: DELL E2416H
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Output Type: HD15 (VGA)
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Usable devices for me at the moment without problems:
Microsoft Surface Laptop 2 i5/8GB/256
HP Chromebook HP-14DB0006AU
External Monitors 27" 2k BenQ BL2710, 32" 2k, Philips Brilliance 328B
Devices with workarounds
Smartphone LG v50 (although needs to have OLED Saver app running for indoor use i.e. brightness less than 62%)
Smartphone LG v30 ( brightness above 42%)
Notebook Thinkpad Yoga 460 FHD IPS screen (brightness above 50%)
Sometimes problematic
I'm alternating between the two, as one becomes worse than the other over time
- HP Envy 15 x360 (older AMD version - oldest usable drivers, never updated from 1803)
- MSI Apache GE62 (hd530, gtx960m, also 1803)
Smartphones
- iPod Touch 4gen (quite comfortable, although my iPhone 4 is not)
- Nokia Lumia 650 (1703, tires my eyes fast, but no pain and strong discomfort)
Tried HTC M7, One X - worse than these two above
Moto G 1st gen, Samsung A6, A5 2017, J3 2016 - absolutely disastrous
zlhr I have a Lumia 640. According to this, it has an IPS screen while your 650 has an AMOLED screen. Is this true? https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-lumia-640-vs-lumia-650-comparison-is-it-worth-the-upgrade/
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So should I get a Lumia 650? Is it much more comfortable for your eyes and brain versus most other phones?
EDIT: You were saying the Lumia you have tires your eyes fast. I thought 1703 was referring to a different model rather than the software you're using on it.
OK, so it's not a very good option, just barely adequate.
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Ryzen 7 2700X
Windows 7 64bit Service Pack 1
Nvidia Quadro K6000(Kepler)
Nvidia Quadro Driver 347.52(Last version before Maxwell)
DVI Connection with standard DVI cable.
Eizo FlexScan L997(ripped off Anti-Glare film by myself)
100% Brightness(No PWM) with OSD Color gain control to 50 ~ 60cd/m2, 6500k or 5500k temperature
(Day: 60cd at 6500k, Night 50cd at 5500k) via Color Calibration(using i1 display pro with DisplayCAL software).
To me
major culprit is Anti-Glare film of the monitor.
No other video card but Kepler.
Latest Nvidia driver slightly affect my eye strain.
No Windows 10
No Intel CPU(I don't know why)
<Problem - Solution>
PWM - 100% Brightness setting
High Brightness - Gain control
Dithering(OS) - Windows 7
Dithering(Videocard) - Nvidia Kepler Architecture Card
Light Diffusion(Heavy AG coating) - Peel off AG film
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I'd like to know what hector is using these days. He was previously trying all kinds of things and finding very good relief with a previous generation BenQ VA.
SeniorTaquito My S8 does not bother me either. idk why. It could have something to do with my screen protector. Or possibly because it's an OLED. I'm not sure.