**6bit+FRC** means dithering (monitor will flicker) **8bit+FRC** flicker on 10bit and when HDR10 is turned on. --- Panelook is lying to you. **LC238LF1F** is actually 6bit+FRC. **LC270LF1F** 6bit+FRC | is not sure about the **LC270LF4F01**. **TPM270** and **TPM236** (FullHD SVA panel) too 6bit+FRC **M238HCA-L7Z** & [ME270FHB-NF0 ](https://www.displayninja.com/gigabyte-g24f-2-review/)both panels 6bit+FRC --- List of monitors from Asus ASUS MK241H FullHD 75Hz TN = LTM240CT03 (6bit+FRC) ASUS ML239H FullHD 75Hz IPS = LM230WF3-SLB1 (6bit+FRC) ASUS PA24AC FullHD 75Hz IPS = **M240UAN02.2 (6bit+FRC)** ASUS PA249Q FullHD 75Hz IPS = LM240WU9-SLA1 (8bit+FRC) \--- ASUS VG249Q FullHD 144Hz IPS = LC238LF1F (6bit+FRC) ASUS VG24VQ FullHD 144Hz SVA = [TPM236WF1-HP02 (6bit+FRC)](https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/fedf1c09) ASUS VP249QGR FullHD 144Hz IPS = LC238LF1F (6bit+FRC) ASUS VG249Q1A FullHD 165Hz IPS = LC238LF1F (6bit+FRC) ASUS XG259CM FullHD 240Hz IPS = LM245WF9-SSA3 (6bit+FRC) ASUS XG249CM FullHD 270Hz IPS = MV238FHM-NG2 (6bit+FRC) ASUS VG249QM1A FullHD 270Hz IPS = MV238FHM-NG2 (6bit+FRC) Asus VG259QM FullHD 280Hz IPS = Q250HAA00 / M250HAN01.7 (8bit) Asus VG279QM FullHD 270Hz IPS = M270HAN03.0 (8bit) \--- ASUS PB278Q 1440p 75Hz PLS = LTM270DL02 (8bit) ASUS MG279Q 1440p 144Hz IPS = M270DAN02.3 (8bit) ASUS XG279Q 1440p 144Hz IPS = M270DAN06.9 (8bit) ASUS PG27VQ 1440p 165Hz TN = M270DTR01.0 (8bit) ASUS XG27Q 1440p 170Hz IPS = M270DAN06.6 (8bit) ASUS XG27AQ 1440p 170Hz IPS = [M270DAN06.8 (6bit+FRC)](https://www.panelook.com/M270DAN06.8_AUO_27.0_LCM_parameter_48371.html) ASUS VG27AQL1A 1440p 170Hz IPS = M270KCJ-K7B (8bit) ASUS PG279Q 1440p 170Hz IPS = M270Q008 V0 (8bit) ASUS PG27AQDM 1440p 240Hz OLED = LW270AHQ-ERG2 (10bit) ASUS PG27AQN 1440p 360Hz IPS = M270DAN10.0 (8bit+FRC) \--- ASUS PQ321 2160p 60Hz IPS = LQ315D1LG91 (10bit) ASUS PA279CV 2160p 60Hz IPS = MV270QUM-N20 (8bit+FRC) ASUS PG27UQR 2160p 160Hz IPS = M270QAN07.0 (8bit+FRC) ASUS XG32UQ 2160p 160Hz IPS = M320QAN02.9 (8bit+FRC)

List of monitors from Gigabyte GIGABYTE G24F FullHD 170Hz IPS = **M238HCA-L7Z (6bit+FRC)** GIGABYTE G24F-2 FullHD 180Hz IPS = LC238LF4F (6bit+FRC) GIGABYTE KD25F FullHD 240Hz TN = M250HTN01.9 (8bit) \--- GIGABYTE G27FC FullHD 165Hz VA = TPM270WF1-HP09 (6bit+FRC) GIGABYTE G27F-2 FullHD 170Hz IPS = [ME270FHB-NF0 (6bit+FRC)](https://www.displayninja.com/gigabyte-g24f-2-review/) \--- GIGABYTE G27Q 1440p 144Hz IPS = M270DAN02 (8bit+FRC) GIGABYTE FI27Q-P 1440p 165Hz IPS = M270KCJ-K7B (8bit) GIGABYTE CV27Q 1440p 165Hz IPS = LSM270DP02 (8bit) GIGABYTE M27Q 1440p 165Hz IPS = LQ270T1JG08 (8bit) GIGABYTE FI27Q-X 1440p 240Hz IPS = LQ270T1JG04 (10bit) GIGABYTE M27Q X 1440p 240Hz IPS = LQ270T1JG29 (10bit) \--- GIGABYTE M28U 2160p 144Hz IPS = M280DCA-E7B (8bit) GIGABYTE M32U 2160p 144Hz IPS = M315DCA-K7B (8bit+FRC) Gigabyte M32Q 2160p 170Hz IPS = M315KCA-E7B (8bit)

List of monitors from LG LG 24GN60R-B FullHD 144Hz IPS = MV238FHM-NG1 (6bit+FRC) LG 24GN600-B FullHD 144Hz IPS = MV238FHM-NG1 (6bit+FRC) LG 24GL650-B FullHD 144Hz IPS = MT236FHM-N10 (6bit+FRC) LG 24GN650-B FullHD 144Hz IPS = MV238FHM-NG1 (6bit+FRC) LG 29EA93 FullHD 144Hz IPS = LM290WW1-SSA1 (8bit) \--- LG 27GN750-B 1440p 144Hz IPS = LM270WF9-SSA1 (8bit) LG 27GN800-B 1440p 144Hz IPS = MV270QHM-NF1 (8bit) LG 27GL83A-B 1440p 144Hz IPS = LM270WQA-SSA2 (8bit+FRC) LG 27GL850-B 1440p 144Hz IPS = LM270WQA-SSA2 (8bit+FRC) LG 27GN850-B 1440p 144Hz IPS = LM270WQA-SSA2 (8bit+FRC) LG 27GN880-B 1440p 144Hz IPS = LM270WQA-SSA2 (8bit+FRC) LG 27GN88A-B 1440p 144Hz IPS = LM270WQA-SSA1 (8bit+FRC) LG 27GP83B-B 1440p 165Hz IPS = LM270WQA-SSC1 (8bit+FRC) LG 27GP850-B 1440p 165Hz IPS = LM270WQA-SSC1 (8bit+FRC) LG 32GK850G 1440p 144Hz VA = M315DVR01.0 (8bit+FRC) LG 45GR95QE 1440p 240Hz OLED = LW450CWQ-ARG1 (10bit) \--- LG 27UD58 2160p 60Hz IPS = MV270QUM-N10 (8bit+FRC) LG 27UL500 2160p 60Hz IPS = MV270QUM-N30 (8bit+FRC) LG 27UP600 2160p 60Hz IPS = MV270QUM-N50 (8bit+FRC) LG 27UL600 2160p 60Hz IPS = MV270QUM-N20 / LM270WR3-SSB1 (8bit+FRC) LG 27UK600 2160p 60Hz IPS = LM270WR3-SSA1 (8bit+FRC) LG 27UL650 2160p 60Hz IPS = MV270QUM-N20 / LM270WR3-SSB1 (8bit+FRC) LG 27UL650 2160p 60Hz IPS = MV270QUM-N20 / N21 (8bit+FRC) LG 27UK850-W 2160p 60Hz IPS = LM270WR3-SSA1 (8bit+FRC) LG 27UL850-W 2160p 60Hz IPS = LM270WR3-SSA1 (8bit+FRC) LG 27UP850 2160p 60Hz IPS = MV270QUM-N50 (8bit+FRC) LG 27BL85U-W 2160p 60Hz IPS = LM270WR3-SSA1 (8bit+FRC) LG 27GP950-B 2160p 144Hz IPS = LM270WR8-SSA1 (8bit+FRC) LG 27GP95R-B 2160p 144Hz IPS = LM270WR8-SSA1 (8bit+FRC) \--- LG 32UN500 2160p 60Hz VA = M315QVN01 (8bit+FRC) LG 32UN550 2160p 60Hz VA = M315QVN01 (8bit+FRC) LG 32UN650 2160p 60Hz IPS = MV315QUM-N20 (8bit+FRC) LG 32UN880 2160p 60Hz IPS = MV315QUM-N20 (8bit+FRC) LG 32UL950 2160p 60Hz IPS = LM315WR2-SSA1 (8bit+FRC) LG 34GK950 2160p 60Hz IPS = LM340UW5-SSA1 (8bit+FRC)

List of monitors from AOC AOC C24G1 FullHD 144Hz VA = TPM236WF1-HP02 (6bit+FRC) AOC 24G2AE FullHD 144Hz IPS = LC238LF1F (6bit+FRC) AOC 24G2U FullHD 144Hz IPS = LC238LF1F (6bit+FRC) AOC 24G2SPU FullHD 165Hz IPS = LC238LF4F (6bit+FRC) AOC 24G2SPAE FullHD 165Hz IPS = LC238LF4F (6bit+FRC) AOC 24g2zu FullHD 240Hz IPS = MV238FHM-NG2 (6bit+FRC) AOC 24G2ZE FullHD 240Hz IPS = MV238FHM-NG2 (6bit+FRC) AOC 25G3ZM FullHD 240Hz VA = CSOT SG2451B01-4 (8bit) \--- AOC 27G2U FullHD 144Hz IPS = LC270LF1F (6bit+FRC) AOC 27G2AE FullHD 144Hz IPS = LC270LF1F (6bit+FRC) AOC C27G1 FullHD 144Hz SVA = [TPM270WF1-HP07 (6bit+FRC)](https://www.epey.co.uk/monitor/aoc-c27g1.html) AOC 27G2SPU FullHD 165Hz IPS = [LC270LF4F01 (6bit+FRC)](https://www.epey.co.uk/monitor/aoc-27g2spu-bk.html) \--- AOC Q3279VWFD8 1440p 75Hz IPS = TPT315B5-QNBN0 (8bit+FRC) AOC Q27G2U 1440p 120Hz SVA = TPM270WQ1-SG1G011 (8bit) AOC AG273QCG 1440p 165Hz TN = M270DTR01.0 (8bit) AOC CQ27G2U 1440p 144Hz VA = CSOT SG2701G01-1 (8bit) AOC Q24G2 1440p 165Hz IPS = MV238QHM-NF0 (8bit) AOC Q27G2S 1440p 165Hz IPS = M270KCJ-K7B (8bit) AOC AG274QX 1440p 170Hz IPS = M270KCJ-K7B (8bit+FRC) AOC AG275QXE 1440p 170Hz IPS = M270KCJ-K7B (8bit+FRC)

What is your source? Do you know that they tend to write sometimes 10bit, sometimes 8bit for the same 8bit+FRC. Also, there is a absolutely no way this monitor GIGABYTE M27Q is 10bit for 300 usd. This is science fiction of an intergalactic scale. Thanks for sharing, but I do not believe this is true. Probably, ASUS PQ321, could be for sure 10bit for 3.5K USD, looks legitimate. But then probably you would go with apple monitor, since there are other compatibility issues that will cause eye strain for macbook users.

@"Donux"#p32891 GIGABYTE **M27Q** 1440p 165Hz IPS = [LQ270T1JG08](https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/gigabyte-m27q/) (8bit) GIGABYTE **M27Q-X** 1440p 240Hz IPS = [Sharp LQ270T1JG29](https://www.displayspecifications.com/ru/model/e4ef28e8) (10bit) GIGABYTE **FI27Q-X** 1440p 240Hz IPS = [Sharp LQ270T1JG04](https://www.displayspecifications.com/ru/model/37c22284) (10bit)

List of monitors from Acer Acer VG240Y FullHD 144hz IPS = LC238LF1F (6bit+FRC) Acer XV240Y FullHD 144hz IPS = MV238FHM-NG0 (6bit+FRC) Acer VG242YP FullHD 144hz IPS = MV238FHM-NG0 (6bit+FRC) Acer VG259QX FullHD 144hz IPS = LM245WF9-SSA2 (6bit+FRC) Acer XF252 FullHD 240hz TN = M250HTN01.9 (8bit) Acer XV273X FullHD 240hz IPS = M270HAN03.0 (8bit) Acer XV252QF FullHD 390hz IPS = M250HAN03.0 (8bit) \--- Acer XB270HU 1440p 144hz IPS = M270DAN02.3 (8bit) Acer XV272U 1440p 144hz IPS = M270KCJ-K7E (8bit+FRC) Acer XB323U 1440p 144hz IPS = M320DAN02.2 (8bit) Acer XB273U 1440p 165hz IPS = M270DAN06.6 (8bit) Acer XV272UKV 1440p 170hz IPS = M270KCJ-K7E (8bit+FRC) Acer XB273UGX 1440p 270hz IPS = M270DAN08.0 (8bit) Acer XV272UX 1440p 270hz IPS = M270DAN08.0 (8bit) Acer XV272UX 1440p 270hz IPS = M270DAN08.0 (8bit)

List of monitors from Dell Dell U2412M FullHD 75Hz IPS = LM240WU8-SLA2 (6bit+FRC) Dell S2421HN FullHD 75Hz IPS = MV238FHM-N60 (6bit+FRC) Dell S2522HG FullHD 240Hz IPS = LM245WF9-SSA3 (6bit+FRC) Dell AW2521HF FullHD 360Hz IPS = M250HAN01.7 (8bit) \--- Dell SE2717H FullHD 75Hz IPS = MV270FHM-N20 (6bit+FRC) Dell SE2717Hr FullHD 75Hz IPS = MV270FHM-N20 (6bit+FRC) Dell SE2717Hx FullHD 75Hz IPS = MV270FHM-N20 (6bit+FRC) Dell U2913WM FullHD 85Hz IPS = LM290WW1-SSA1 (8bit) Dell AW2720HF FullHD 270Hz IPS = LM270WF9-SSA1 (8bit) \--- Dell U2711 1440p 75Hz IPS = LM270WQ2-SLA1 (8bit+FRC) Dell U3011 1440p 85Hz IPS = LM300WQ5-SLA1 (8bit+FRC) Dell AW3418DW 1440p 120Hz IPS = LM340UW4-SSA1 (8bit+FRC) Dell S2721DGF 1440p 165Hz IPS = LM270WQA-SSA2 (8bit+FRC) Dell AW2721D 1440p 240Hz IPS = LM270WQB-SSA1 (8bit+FRC) Dell AW2723DF 1440p 280Hz IPS = LM270WQB-SSA2 (8bit+FRC) \--- Dell UP2715K 2880p 60Hz IPS = LM270QQ1-SDA2 (8bit) Dell UP3214Q 2880p 60Hz IPS = LQ315D1LG9D (10bit) Dell G3223Q 2160p 144Hz IPS = M320QAN02.C (8bit+FRC)

List of monitors from Lenovo Lenovo G24-10 FullHD 144Hz TN = MT236FHM-N10 (6bit+FRC) Lenovo G24-20 FullHD 144Hz IPS = MV238FHM-NG0 (6bit+FRC) Lenovo R25i-30 FullHD 180Hz IPS = M250HAN01.B (8bit) Lenovo R25f-30 FullHD 240Hz VA = CSOT SG2451B01-4 (8bit) Lenovo Y25-30 FullHD 280Hz IPS = LM245WF9-SSA3 (6bit+FRC) \--- Lenovo Y27q-20 1440p 165Hz IPS = LM270WQA-SSA1 (8bit+FRC) Lenovo Y27q-30 1440p 180Hz IPS = LM270WQA-SSB1 (8bit+FRC) Lenovo Y32p-30 2160p 144Hz IPS = M315DCA-K7B (8bit+FRC)

List of monitors from MSI MSI G241 FullHD 144Hz IPS = LC238LF1F (6bit+FRC) MSI G24C4 FullHD 144Hz SVA = TPM236WF1-HP02 (6bit+FRC) MSI MAG241C FullHD 144Hz SVA = TPM236WF1-HP02 (6bit+FRC) \--- MSI MAG271C FullHD 144Hz SVA = TPM270WF1-HP07 (6bit+FRC) MSI MAG272C FullHD 165Hz SVA = TPM270WF1-HP09 (6bit+FRC) MSI MAG274R2 FullHD 165Hz IPS = M270HAN02.6 (8bit) \--- MSI MAG274QRF-QD 1440p 165Hz IPS = M270DAN08.2 (8bit) MSI MAG274QRX 1440p 165Hz IPS = LQ270T1JG29 (10bit) MSI 275CQRF-QD 1440p 170Hz VA = CSOT SG2701G02-2 (8bit) MSI G274QPF 1440p 170Hz IPS = ME270QHB-NF0 (8bit+FRC) MSI G274QPF-QD 1440p 170Hz IPS = ME270QHB-NF0 (8bit+FRC) MSI MEG342C 1440p 175Hz OLED = QMB340CD01-C03 (10bit) \--- MSI MPG321UR-QD 2160p 144Hz IPS = M320QAN02.3 (8bit+FRC) MSI MEG381CQR+ 2160p 144Hz IPS = LM375QW2-SSA2 (8bit+FRC)

List of monitors from IIYAMA IIYAMA X2377HS FullHD 75Hz IPS = LM230WF3-SLK1 (6bit+FRC) IIYAMA XU2493HS-B4 FullHD 75Hz IPS = MV238FHB-N30 (6bit+FRC) IIYAMA G2470HSU-B1 FullHD 165Hz IPS = LC238LF2F (6bit+FRC) IIYAMA GB2470HSU-B1 FullHD 165Hz IPS = LC238LF2F (6bit+FRC) \--- IIYAMA XB3270QS-B1 1440p 75Hz IPS = MV315QHB-N10 (8bit+FRC)

How to buy an 8bit panel monitor?

Aquila

To avoid strain from monitor, here some tips:
1) 8bit panel without frc
2) sRGB 99% colour gamut but no high dci-p3
3) A panel without KSF phosphors, a modern technology to improve colour space gamut.

Here a list of new monitors 27"-2k-100hz -true 8bit -sRGB 99% (apart the AOC and PHILIPS)

🔴AOC Q27B3CF2 (sRGB 120% - DCI-P3 90%)
🟢DELL P2725D
🟢DELL S2725DS
🟢IIYAMA Prolite XUB2790QSUH-B
🟢ITEK 27 GGF
🟢KTC H27T27
🟢LG 27U631A-B (TESTED BUT IT TRIGGERS MIGRAINE) BAD
🔴PHILIPS 27E1N1600AE.(sRGB 121% - DCi-P3 93%)
🟢VIEWSONIC VG2709-2K-MHD-2

Donux

Aquila This one has Dell Pro 27 Plus QHD Monitor - P2725D, 4 star TUV rating. Rarely in marketing websites companies mention actual star 1-5, but certification always includes these, it just manufacturer chooses if it is worthy to share. I would assume other flicker free TUV monitors simply have low star rating, so they avoid sharing it. I am wondering now, are there any products that are rated at five stars at all for TUV flicker free?

randomboolean

Aquila Great list! Have you tested all of those yourself? If so - any of these better than others?

K-Moss

Donux "This one has Dell Pro 27 Plus QHD Monitor - P2725D, 4 star TUV rating. Rarely in marketing websites companies mention actual star 1-5, but certification always includes these, it just manufacturer chooses if it is worthy to share. I would assume other flicker free TUV monitors simply have low star rating, so they avoid sharing it. I am wondering now, are there any products that are rated at five stars at all for TUV flicker free?"

Very interesting. Do you know what it is about the Dell you've mentioned that warrants the 4-star TUV rating when most others getting certification are scoring 1 or 2?

Aquila

randomboolean
The Lg one only I'll test in the next days.

Aquila

LG 27U631A-B
TESTED
It triggers migraine.

Not good.

dxsetup

Titan Army P275MV Plus and Titan Army P245MS+

Please test

MrOctagon

I'm trying to get the features of the MSI MP245V (which is 23 or 24 inch) on a smaller screen. Is the MSI Pro MP223 suitable?

Both of these models are:

- VA

- 8bit panels without frc

- do not show as having KSF phosphors in internet searches

- do not show as having high dci-p3 in internet searches.

Many thanks in advance for any advice or comments.

Faham

Tested with Lenovo L27h 4A ,Model: 67C0UAC6IN. After years of struggle, this one works.

AshX

Anyone test the 2013/2014 27” Apple Thunderbolt Display or know if it’s true 8-bit? I’m considering getting one to test but there’s a good likelihood it will be a $150 paperweight if it has FRC or if the transistors are fried and it exhibits transistor leakage (a good possibility).

macsforme

AshX I tried one a few months ago and it was uncomfortable. The flickering seemed more likely from the backlight than the pixels, but hard to say. I also heard there was a variety of panels used in these, so YMMV.

AshX

macsforme

This is my concern with a monitor that is over a decade old. I’m amazed by how scuffed and dinged up so many of them are - like what the hell are people doing with a 27” monitor?! There are a few sealed ones on eBay but the asking price is hilarious. My 2019 iMac had transistor leakage after 5 years of use so I can only imagine what 12+ years would do. Worth a shot if you can pick it up for $100 or less but clearly not worth the risk for much more.

JTL

AshX I’m amazed by how scuffed and dinged up so many of them are - like what the hell are people doing with a 27” monitor?!

Using them as a corkboard? 😆

K-Moss

AshX "My 2019 iMac had transistor leakage after 5 years of use so I can only imagine what 12+ years would do. Worth a shot if you can pick it up for $100 or less but clearly not worth the risk for much more."

Fascinating. Corroborates my belief it's better to buy lower end electronics and regularly upgrade them. The cost these days is so low.

AshX

K-Moss

It’s very common especially with modern LCDs (transistor leakage) given how cheap the components are. Power management is also in an interesting place where battery life is the focus, hence the reliance on PWM and dithering to extend it in many cases, along with other techniques.

I think finding a high quality monitor or laptop is the goal - it’s just that there aren’t many being made these days. I’d wager the early 2010s Thunderbolt Display probably has a better build quality than my 2019 iMac. I also basically had the iMac on 12+ hours a day with sleep disabled (screen saver instead) because it was a music production computer. That probably didn’t help in terms of extending the display’s lifespan. The new MacBook Airs have the worst build quality I’ve seen in an Apple computer in years.

K-Moss

AshX IPS monitors that get good reviews and are sufficiently large go for $100 these days. Therefore, you can buy them easily, return them as necessary if you don't like them in the first 30 days, and since they're so cheap you can replace them whenever without feeling the expense. So you're probably right monitors used to be made better, but they're so cheap now that it is what it is. Buying 2 new $100 monitors every 2 years, if that is what takes to avoid transistor leakage, isn't such a bad deal. That's $100 + tax a year and you get 2 new monitors every 2 years in that scenario.

"I also basically had the iMac on 12+ hours a day."

Good old IPS.

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