If you've replaced the OLED screen on the iPhone 12, 13, 14, or 15 with LCD incell technology, please share your experience here. I've come across varied feedback, some claim it works well, while others suggest potential issues like increased heat and damage. LCD incell screens for these iPhone models are available on AliExpress and other stores.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/pwm-sufferers-has-anyone-succesfully-changed-oled-screen-to-a-lcd-screen.2399368/ “Yes, pwm sufferer here. Switched my iPhone 12 to a “in-cell” lcd and no more headaches. Colors aren’t as good as before and maybe some extra lag but worth it for me. Have had the phone this way for a year now. Battery drain is pretty steep too, but the iPhone 12 battery is notorious. The Apple MagSafe clear case does a good job not hugging the screen, which now pops out a bit because lcd is thicker than oled.” https://www.reddit.com/r/PWM_Sensitive/comments/129meu9/screen_replacement/ “Hi all. I just wanted to share this in case anyone would be interested in doing what I did to resolve my pwm sensitivity issue. I was sick and tired of my slow and laggy iPhone 11. I went out and got an iPhone 13 and replaced the screen with an LCD one. Super easy process. Coming from someone who had never replaced a screen before. Screen is crystal clear! No problems whatsoever (yet).” https://www.reddit.com/r/PWM_Sensitive/comments/13c1tg4/lcd_for_12_pro_max/ Iphone 13 pro max “I’m amazed that when I looked at this phone with the OLED on it when it came in. I got a headache so bad within 10 minutes and eye spasms. Now I’ve been using it since Sat so 48 hours with the LCD and feel is like I’m using my 11 or 8 plus. No pain, headache or eye twitch at all.“ https://www.reddit.com/r/PWM_Sensitive/comments/18ylkrd/iphone_lcd_screen_replacement “I have tried this OLED replaced by LCD experiment on iPhone 12 and 12 pro max. Both do not bother my eyes any longer. I tweaked a few settings in Brightness and white point to make it work painless for eyes for hours of use. However, this experiment comes with its own setbacks - phone gets heated quickly while using Internet and battery consumption of LCD seems more compared to OLED. My iphone 12 also reports incorrect clicks sometimes and needs to be carefully tapped .Hope this will be useful and best luck with your experiment on iPhone 13.”

Iphone 12, 13, 14 and 15 with lcd incell screen

Apple-Meta-USA

Looking forward to that!

eyestrainsolutions

Another sucess story, swapped iphone 13 screen.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PWM_Sensitive/comments/1ci9wx6/i_swapped_my_iphone_13_to_an_lcd/

“I swapped my iPhone 13 to an LCD.

Hello everyone,

I wanted to share my recent experience with replacing the OLED screen on my iPhone 13 with an LCD. I highly recommend purchasing a used iPhone over a new one if you're considering this modification. However, I would advise against trying this on any of the Pro models, as their always on display features won't work with an LCD screen.

I wouldn’t recommend attempting this on the latest generation, such as the iPhone 15, for a couple of reasons:

They are more expensive.
There is limited availability of third party replacement parts, which means you'll likely pay more even for an LCD.

I purchased my iPhone 13 from a phone reseller on eBay. Upon receiving it, I took it to a local phone repair shop to have both the display and the battery replaced since it was refurbished and already being opened up. The screen looks and functions wonderfully, comparable in quality to my iPhone XR. The battery life is about the same as well.”

jordan

eyestrainsolutions what symptoms did you have prior that you no longer have with the LCD ?

I wonder if there's no dithering/FRC and pwm?

eyestrainsolutions

@ "jordan"#p35563 The only smartphones that i can use with confort is the iphone se 2020 and the se 2022. I have tried the iphone 11 that also have an lcd screen and it didn’t work. Bad screens give me dry eyes, light sensitivity and blurry vision. I have tried more than 30 screens (laptop, external monitors, tv smartphones). If its dithering, pwm or others im not sure yet, maybe a combination of several factors, each screen is different.

To find the reason for our problems isn’t easy, but i think we should also look in other directions, for example if you look directly to a led lamp, some create starbursts and others not. I believe a bad screen creat starbursts in every “pixel dot” (that we dont notice, its “invisible” but it’s there) a good screen will not create visual starbursts.

Online reviews from persons with our problems show that the most comfortable smartphone is the se 2020/2022 (unfortunately still not to all). Someone should track the manufacturer, and contact them to try knowing the reason.

DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs

eyestrainsolutions The only smartphones that i can use with confort is the iphone se 2020

which ios do you have? i have se 2020 and i hate the screen on it (mine has 17.1.2)

se 2020 screen feels terrible to me

on the other hand i'm totally fine with my iphone 7 (15.7)

eyestrainsolutions

DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs I have ios 17.4.1 I suggest you to try another se 2020 or 2022. I believe not all have the same panel. For example one mac air m1 was very good, and another one not good (same model but manufacture next year)

macsforme

eyestrainsolutions I have ios 17.4.1 I suggest you to try another se 2020 or 2022.

I believe I can second this. iOS (and iPadOS, and tvOS) 17.x seemed universally horrible for me across a range of devices. My mother showed me her iPhone SE (2020 I believe) running iOS 17, and when I looked at it, already convinced that it was similarly horrible and prepared to tell her so, it actually looked okay (although it was only for a few seconds).

Nevertheless, because several "good" devices went "bad" for me on iOS/iPadOS/tvOS 17, and because my personal symptoms often develop over time and involve many unknowns, I plan to stay on versions 15 or 16 of Apple operating systems while I can.

m1ngw

Re incell panels. I tried many on a 13 mini. Whilst the pwm was gone, the screens drain battery, phone overheats, poor colour reproduction and there is risk of poor touch functionality with ghost touches. Not worth it.

On iOS 17 on the SE3/11, try enabling zoom mode with zoom invert and then enable classic invert. The screen display/colours are much more comfortable at the expense of the wider colour gamut.

eyestrainsolutions

There is hope!

“I have with an iPhone 14 and it has been working perfectly. Make sure you get a branded Incell like RJ.”https://www.reddit.com/r/PWM_Sensitive/comments/1eeavzs/replace_oled_with_lcd_screen/

tomek

I was thinking about swap, but I've tried to use with regular OLED screen. Now I'm using 15 pro max changed from 14 pro.

What's work for me: for sure first thing to do is disable adaptive refresh rate to max 60hz with 120hz direct strain. Turn off True Tone and use black theme. But I think most important is using foil instead of glas. I have one producent nothing fancy just cheap one from Poland, but if I change for other direct eye strain.

I think for me it's some thing with accommodation and this foil make easer to accommodate. With tis setup I can use each Oled iPhone as a daily driver with no strain.

asus389

tomek What do you mean foil instead of glass? Like a screen protector? I had some success with the 11 Pro Max using dark mode, disabling faceID, and disabling trutone. It was iOS 13 though, so a long time ago. I wonder if the screen protector makes the light emission from the screen more diffuse/delayed effectively smoothing out the PWM curve.

tomek

asus389 yes plastic foil screen protector. Don't know how it works, but I've tried many Matt, glass and others and only when I use this one is OK.

After applying I felt relief and knew that it will be OK but I think you can try some other on your market I even don't know if they ship aboard

It's this one: https://smartspot.com.pl/folie-ceramiczne/1067645302-folia-ceramiczna-grizz-do-apple-iphone-15-pro-max-5904063584383.html

It worked for me with iphone 14 pro and now 15 pro max

eyestrainsolutions

tomek Did you tried other foil plastic protector brand, or only this one?

tomek

Actually many of glass and some matte one foil I think but it was not crystal clear. I had old foil which was matte from 3mk brand but sligly polished and this one worked for me I even used it on newer iPhone becouse they stopped production at iPhone xs, but It was old and used🤣 Then I've tried this glossy and it worked.

tomek

Search for głosy crystal clear foil, in my description says it's crystal clear and don't change color. I felt this directory after applaying that it will work, with other it wasn't. It's not expensive and worth to try. Maybe it not work with you each of us is specific but it worth to give a chance. I use it with settings as I wrote before no matter which version of iOS I use I'm now on ios 18 beta and still whole day driver.

beacon

Just replaced my iPhone 15 Pro screen with an Incell LCD today. 45 minute project. No special skills required.

Regarding the above comment of “not worth it”, I don’t care if the colors may not be as vivid or it may drain the battery faster or touch may be tricky at times. What I care about is that I can look at my phone for more than 10 minutes now without feeling like I want to vomit. I don’t care about the “side effects” as long as the screen doesn’t trigger my seizures.

The relief I’ve been feeling today has been profound.

eyestrainsolutions

beacon Can you update us about the new screen? And where did you bought it? I have bought an iphone 16 and unfortunately is making my eyes miserable. Thanks

jalucky13

beacon What is that app you used for the flicker measurement?

JOSEUISLEY

Hello, can you send to us the link you buy this incell screen please! Sorry for bad english

snksmxnzkz

I'm from another country and don't know English well, but we also have popular forums where phone flickering is discussed. One user bought a microscope and started checking screens for flickering.

So far he has tested the iPhone 11, Huawei Mate 20, Incell from manufacturer RJ for the iPhone 12 Pro Max, and screens from manufacturers RJ, JK, EK Pro, TC for the iPhone 14 Plus.

The iPhone 11 has a noticeable strong Temporal Dithering that makes many people's eyes hurt, the Huawei Mate 20 and iPhone 12 Pro Max with the RJ screen had a flicker that was hardly noticeable and these screens are suitable for the most sensitive people. The screens from the JK and EK Pro phablets noticeably flicker, straining the eyes a bit, these screens may not be suitable for everyone. Apparently, in new batches after the iPhone 12, the RJ factory changed the technology of production of displays and now the flicker appeared on the edges of fonts and on some colors, eyes can be strained. The screen from TC factory turned out to be the worst, straining my eyes a lot, in addition to that it is also extremely low quality.

I attach a video of its tests, where you can clearly see the presence of flickering. If anyone has the opportunity to test their phones in the same way, especially among those who use incell screens, it would help everyone a lot.

It doesn't require any special skills or equipment, just any microscope.

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Staycalmsyndrome

snksmxnzkz Please link those forums. Maybe we can use google translate.

JTL

snksmxnzkz I'm from another country and don't know English well

Doing a fine job 🙂

snksmxnzkz

Staycalmsyndrome sorry for the late response

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