Humidifier the solution no one talks about!

humid

Can't believe no one wrote about this actually.

So I have realized the burning eye sensations is because of low humidity in my case. And this is common if you search for the symptoms of that:

"Dry climate. Places with low humidity are hot spots for dry eye. Your body will make less tears in a dry climate, and the tears it does make will evaporate quicker." https://www.webmd.com/eye-health/dry-eye-summer-months

And my humidity is around 30% now. That is too low and often happens on the winter for me.
"Humidity levels of about 45% or more are best for your eyes."
https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?contenttypeid=1&contentid=3069

This is because our houses are enerrgy efficent and remove much of the humidity from outside.

Solution: Buy a humidifier and try to open as much as possible to let fresh air in. Be careful with humidifier tho because it can very easily turn to mold. Which means you need to check at least every week and clean which can be a bit troublesome but you gotta do what you gotta do.

Donux

humid 🙂 You are just touching one of the potential causes, but not a major one. I live near the sea, its 100 percent humidity and rain pretty much all the time 🙂 So would dismiss your hypothesis unfortunately.

humid

Donux

Just because 1 person out of all of us does not mean that the "hypothesis" is wrong. It worked for me so it is already proven to work. No solution solves everyones problem here and i never claimed it does. Don't be so fast to shoot down something next time. Think it definitely can be a major one in cold climates.

Donux

Donux I did not want to invalidate your experience, some people do suffer from dry eye strain. But to be honest at least for some of us (probably significant majority long timers on this forum) the cause is clearly externaly caused by specific hardware. Shifting a way from this fact, can actually be harmful I believe. Just few days a go I have tried macbook air m2 again on a monitor and then used windows 11, and I am fully confident, even with all the betterDisplay app customization features, something is wrong with GPU of all or some batches of macbooks airs M models (PRO models do have similar symthoms). And I can even imagine someone working in big urban city, over stimulated by variety of things and using these machines. They would probably never attribute real cause to actual machine, as it is so over marketinted that it would hard to break that image of perfection. I am looking forward when I will try intel macs on external monitor. I have used it before in a workplace on a cheap monitor, and it was smooth to use, but that was quite a few days ago.

Sunspark

I have been using one for a couple years now in the winter.. I have it in my bedroom and often drag it downstairs too.. probably should buy a second one.

It's no cure, but it does help. Good idea to also use lubricating eye drops as well.

Dry eyes can make text look like double vision or shadow.

P.S. If someone gets one, just get a basic wicking filter one, not ultrasonic. The reason for that is because the ultrasonic ones precipitate the minerals in water out into the air which leaves a white dust when it settles. The wicking ones don't do that.

Donux

Donux Auch 🙂 Did I just reply to my own post 🙂 It was reply to @humid post 🙂

moonpie

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humid

moonpie My God, what is wrong with you? Are you guys just trying to find fault and coming with assumptions? Grow up and tone down your ego. I'm trying to help.

It was exactly like that for me: I was mostly fine during the summer but so much worse during the winter. But since my eyes had been so dry for so long it kept making even early summer worse. Now I realize why that is.

And no, old houses do not bleed energy at all. I've lived in old apartments and they are actually worse since they barely bring in any fresh air (the turnover is very low). An old apartment does not mean they have not made it energy efficient. They make all apartments energy efficient (they do not bleed energy) in Sweden even old ones. But in old ones they do not check/care for humidity or oxygen turnover. Ive looked into this quite extensively.

They even made a study that confirmed this: "Low relative humidity indoors is a problem in many Swedish homes during the heating season, more so in apartments than in detached houses, in homes built after 1985, and in the northern parts of the country." https://research.chalmers.se/publication/532869

"It has nothing to do with LED eyestrain" that is why the wiki have a "Health" section with vitamins in it. https://wiki.ledstrain.org/docs/health/

But you bring up an important point: Eye strain can be conflated with other things and causes. But it does have a connection to my computer: Because when I sit in front of the computer it gets much worse because I do not blink so much etc.

And do not bother replying because I wont reply to an asshole again.

Maxx

humid Sorry but with 30 years of experience on this problem, humidity is not a solution at all. No amount of lubricating drops applied every 15 minutes or so will help me at all if I use a screen that will get my eyes bloodshot. My eyes will remain bloodshot even if I apply moisturizing drops constantly.

Blinking is also not the issue, I have had the software that measures blinks and I always blink much more than is expected on average.

Air humidity has absolutely zero to do with this problem.

The biggest problem in this is that we know it is the flicker, either PWM or tempora dithering. When there is a display that does not have PWM or temporal dithering, it does not irritate the eyes. But so many people, doctors included refuse to understand and believe that it is the flicker, not dry eyes, lack of moisture, blue light etc. and when not adequate amount of doctors and manufacturers understand this problem, it will never be resolved.

I'm writing this with a computer and screen that produces zero irritation, while if I switch another laptop to this screen, my eyes will burn in 15 minutes.

moonpie

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