Out of curiosity, what was the reason you replaced it? Too old, or you wanted colour?

    Sunspark Just to try the lcd screens again. I already have a colored one (Hisense a5 pro cc)

    I found the lcd very good because of the easy navigation and use of maps. With the color eink one you don't have great usability, but more or less you can do it. Also, lately, I noticed something when looking in the mirror. My pupils contract and expand intermittently. Why does this happen I ask my self.

    Any new observations for latanoprost?

    bisk89, did you measure your IOP before and after treatment?

    These drops could take up to 4 weeks to give you a noticeable effect

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    Lauda89 There is also a supplement that has an evident influence on eye pressure.

    Mirtogenol could lower your IOP after 3 months of usage. And there are no side effects were found. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2447819/

    You could try it if Latanoprost causes problems.

    There is also research that showed that a combination of Latanoprost and Mirtogenol has better efficiency than Latanoprost solely. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20505841/

      Just started the drops. Fingers crossed!

      19 hours ago, I used Latanoprost for the first time. Today, my eyes feel much better - there’s no sensation of pressure, and no pain at all. They feel kind of "wet," but in a good, refreshing way. For reference, my IOP was just 11 before I started the drops.

      I haven’t used any PWM devices yet. I plan to try them on day 3, as that’s when Latanoprost should be fully effective.

      @Zodios @Lauda89 by the way, I wanted to ask, do you have any found intracranial pressure problems? Is anything abnormal on the brain MRI/CT/Eco-EG?

        Ivan_P I ordered the supplement! I will give you a feedback in a month 😉

        Ivan_P I had a head MRI and an EEG! Of course I am the healthiest person in the world!

          Zodios changed the title to ✌️ Cause of my Temporal Dithering LED eye strain and an effective treatment .

          Ivan_P I never do intracranial pressure measurement.

          Just do MRI (it is ok) and duplex ultrasound for the neck arteries and veins (have small stenosis due to neck craniocervical instability)

          Glad to hear you might have found a solution, the IOP issue is very interesting.

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          Ivan_P Small steps… I recently bought a car that was unusable after 15 minutes. Today I drove it for like an hour with almost zero issues. To the point where I cannot tell if this is real or is the anxiety about driving the car. I have used the drops only once per day for the past 4 days so I am little slow with the progress.

          @Zodios how long you used the drops 2 times per day?

            Zodios wow 🙂 do you think that I should also switch to twice per day?

            @Zodios @Lauda89 do you guys have an office job? How long do you sit on an average day? Does sitting position matter when it comes to eyestrain for you

              I have started on these same drops, Latanaprost, due to high eye pressures and am experiencing significant relief from my strange eye symptoms. So, my question is what does this mean, and will the eye symptoms come back once I stop the drops, or is it likely to stay better?

                Ivan_P I do have office job with a lot sitting.

                In my personal case bad sitting posture cause forward head posture which worsen my cervical instability and have some effect on intraocular preasure and optic nerve compression.

                  Ivan_P 36 in both eyes. It was due to an eye condition (Uevitis) and drops I was taking for it, but nothing really made a difference in my actual eye symptoms before Latanaprost.

                  Zodios

                  Yeah, I feel the same thing. If I sit a lot with my head pushed forward, I get noticeable eyestrain.

                  While my head rested in a horizontal position I could work on a safe laptop almost without limitations

                    Ivan_P I also notice forward head posture adds to all of this. Your neck curvature may be out of the normal threshold which will make things worse when your head is more forward past your shoulders. I have been seeing a chiropractor that uses the atlas orthogonal technique which has helped. My neck curvature was I think around -40 (complete opposite direction) with his adjustments after awhile its dropped to I think -18 or so. Hoping I can get back to the normal curvature as im sure that would help a lot. Normal chiropractors that crack bones didnt do a darn thing. (ive seen several prior)

                      jordan my neck has literally no lordosis and that causes problem for me.

                      How did you measure your neck curve? If it's some particular research, could you tell me it's name?

                        Ivan_P Hello - my chiropractor took specific xrays and he measured the curvature himself based off the xray. I have seen several chiros and they didnt help me at all. It took a specific upper cervical chiropractor, one that uses the "atlas orthogonal" technique. Thats when I found out more problems in my neck that previous chiros never mentioned. you can find those on upcspine.com and uppercervicalcare.com

                        I still have a long ways to go with correcting my neck curvature. The older you are the harder it will be I think. My chiro showed me some other xrays of past patients and I was amazed how some people were able to go from straight neck to natural curvature within a year. I still have screen sensitivities but I am wondering if some symptoms will improve over time. I know for sure I get issues when I am looking down at a screen or if my head is more forward. I try to keep my head over my shoulders and not so much pushed out. Also most of us have airrosti uppercross syndrome im sure which pulls your shoulders and head in which causes issues too. My chiro told me to youtube airrosti uppercross exercises to help that.

                          @Zodios may I ask you if you are using any kind of SSRIs?

                          Thank you in advance!

                          PS: I'm using Venlafaxin and it causes me pupil dilatation, which is a rare side effect, but it seems its the root of all the cause of eye strain.

                            Zodios is anyone researching Dr Jack Kruse here? LEDS penetrate through the eye to the retina. Incandescents do not.

                              Astellar I have been reading and listening to his stuff for awhile. He is a super smart guy. LEDs definitely aren't beneficial to us in any way. I avoid LEDs as much as I can.

                              Zodios Software engineers always want get more from the same hardware that's how temporal dithering works - get more colors from the same cheap 8 bit panel by doing flickering by pixels.

                              Well said!!

                              Reading your posts hits home for me. While we don't share the exact same symptom balance, I resonate with how you have experienced devices, with your thoughts on temporal dithering, and how both hardware and software can be the culprit.

                              Thank you

                              jordan It's hard to tell if our symptoms could gone or been easier after proper treatment, but I have some positive observations.

                              Last week I spent working from the office where I struggled to get a comfortable chair. Every day, I worked with a pushed-forward head position and without frequent breaks.

                              I ended up getting bad eyestrain from my phone and safe computer. I feel pressure and the sharp pain behind my eyes. It was pretty similar to my symptoms of bad screens.

                              After two days with a normal head position and regular rest, these symptoms were gone.

                              Maybe something similar will happen after a successful neck treatment with other devices. I hope on this 😉

                              @Zodios do you have any signs of nasal congestion from sitting with a bad posture / pushed forward head?

                              Every time that I have eyestrain from some changes in sitting position I also notice a slight nasal congestion.

                              I don't know if is it related to eyestrain, but in theory, if swelling of the nasal mucosa is triggered by head position, it could do the same for tissues near the eye. Near the eye, tissue could push on the nerve, and eyestrain and pain occurs

                                BlackHawk6363 , good - no issue with devices and led lamps.

                                In my case it was 100% due to intraocular pressure and forward head posture which cause optic nerve compresion.

                                When i did control my posture and have much workload stress withc cause neck muscle tightnes I have some litele symptoms from led devices but it is much less then it was before my treatment plan.

                                  Zodios
                                  I have severe pain in the back of my head, similar to osteochondrosis, I will soon go to a neurologist, the ophthalmologist diagnosed initial angiopathy of the retina

                                  But one thing I can’t understand is why there are devices that do not cause problems with poor posture

                                    Zodios Everything is connected and holistic. But it makes sense. There is a reason why there is office health and safety regulations for every small detail, at least in my case. To me always it was a bit over the top these rules and regulations, but overtime I start to realise - these are all created to propect my health over long period of time by people who "been there and done it".

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