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martin I definitely think we need to get as many visitors on this site to provide more details of their eye condition(s). Maybe nobody here has 20/20 vision or perfect binocular vision. There has to be a link. That doesn't mean we all need to get our vision corrected, as that simply isn't physically possible in some cases. I am perplexed as to why 'normal' people are not affected by flicker/temporal dithering, maybe it is cumulative and the effects of use will be visible in a decade or two.

    My STRONG suspicion is that this is a muscular condition. The fact that my eyes feel "tight" or "tense" when I'm having issues leads me to believe that something (LED, flicker, spectrum, intensity, etc.) is "triggering" my brain to tense the muscles around my eyes leading to a rapid onset of symptomology. Lately, between the new car and remodeling the basement I've spent a lot of time under questionable lighting - perusing the lighting aisle in Lowe's, installing new fixtures (and the flicker associated with them) in my basement, in and out of work, etc. and my eyes are just TIRED all the time. this leads to more rubbing, more straining, less blinking, etc.

    If it's possible to simply force the eyes and muscles to relax through judicious use of ANY relaxant (whether it's THC, alcohol, or really anything), I'll take that option. I honestly don't think that there are EVIL DAMAGING RAYS (although the effect of blue light on the retina is definitely not positive) that are hurting us. This is a brain/eye/muscle/focus problem. There IS a solution out there, we just have to find it.

      Gurm I am an identical twin and my brother has no eye issues, stereovision and 20/20, I got the raw end of the deal with my eyesight 😉.

      I have asked him recently how he is in work, at home etc. Granted at work he's still using older HP monitors, but still LED and no doubt from a value range. Also he uses an Xbox one, and iPhone pretty much all day and he never gets headaches or eye strain. Maybe he's been lucky enough not to encounter a bad device, but I doubt it if he's using the latest iPhone/iPad for hours at a time. I would say it also rules out any genetic pre-disposition as well. I might force him to use one of my bad devices soon and see how he gets on.

      The only remaining issue as you mentioned is brain/eye/muscle problem, exacerbated by the dithering/xyz on devices.

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          diop I suspect that MOST of us, over the course of our lives, have overworked our eyes. I know I have. I've been on a screen pretty much 8 hours a day for more than 25 years. In my early 20's I spent more than a year developing video games, during which time I was coding 18+ hours a day with very little sleep. I'm sure we all have eye problems of one kind or another. Many of us have allergy/sinus problems. Many of us have TMJ. I don't think there's a strong commonality, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it were a brain/eye/muscle communication problem exacerbated by inflammation, which seems to be the source of all of my woes in other areas, for sure. It would be great if a common culprit were found.

            diop I think that and rendering styles that I mentioned in another thread. Android especially seems to flash elements as they settle into place, so if your eyes can detect it then it is far from a smooth linear refresh each time something on the screen changes.

              There are simple diagnostic techniques that you can try at home. I encourage people to write me message here or an email and Ill help. They're simple and won't replace a laboratory testing, but they still give good results. Ive already exchanged emails with a few people and all seemed to have some sort of vergence/accomodation problem.
              Why the display tech causes this issue to manifest I dont know, but I believe there is another way of finding out. If tech solution is so evasive, maybe understanding the underlying health issue could help us understand what the tech is actually doing wrong. Write me and Ill try to help as much as I can. One user from here that Ive met in Prague wrote me yesterday that the advice I gave him helped and he can now use some devices more than before. That is amazing as he didnt even do any training, just alternated one and the other eye and tried adjusting one after the other, before using both. This issue is new, and treatment experimental, and Id be excited to hear more news like this.

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              AGI What she says is very much very close to Feldenkrais / Alexander concepts. Actually i have improved in many respects my chronic back pain just by changing my movement habits.

              I have also improved my tolerance to many bad displays with eye exercises i.e. by improving eye flexibility and enhancing the eyes ability to move freely in many directions.

              However i do believe that there is some kind of toxicity in the LED lights technology.

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                Many of us, including myself, often found correlation between onset / worsening of vision issues and flu, cold, and sinusitis.

                This doctor says that flu and viruses can indeed affect binocular vision and induce eye turn / strabismus.

                How Having The Flu Can Affect Your Vision

                  AGI this video is really good and makes sense. If you need help write me an email again, Ill send you some pointers. Dont want to spam here.

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                    I do not want to sound like I am sponsoring someone, but also this other video from the same doctor is interesting. She successfully cured a kid wearing Coke-bottle glasses, enormously reducing her lens prescription.

                    Patient Update: Success With Decreasing Lens Prescription In A Five Year Old

                    That is what I saw happening at a workshop by Leo Angart. Some attendees, all adults over 50 yo, went to a nearby pharmacy and bought glasses with reduced prescription twice within the two days of the training, consisting of exercises with Brock string and else.

                    Looking Inward: Treating Convergence Insufficiency (CI) with Vision Therapy | Wow Vision Therapy

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                    Gurm I've started taking CBD and it definitely helps make my MacBook screen more tolerable by relaxing the eyes/muscles/focus.

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                        vince Thanks for the info. Which product are you using exactly and where are you based?

                          I use Cymbiotika Nexus which has CBD. But I’m sure there are many good brands. I’m in the US. I only take 1 pump vs the 14 pumps recommended. But taking 2 pumps definitely relaxed my eyes so that the MacBook was tolerable. CBD is quite amazing.

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                            vince I can't imagine what would happen if you took 14 pumps...:-)
                            Side effects?
                            Do you have any concern?

                              It does slow dow your reflexes, so I wouldn’t drive after taking it. But you will find it has other benefits you didn’t expect.

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                                vince Uh, that can be a serious downside. Is avoiding to drive your precaution or Is it illegal to drive after taking the oil?
                                If I am not too invasive, did you get the oil prescribed specifically for your eyestrain issues? In case, I am curious what the diagnosis of your doctor was and which type of specialist you visited, given that no one seems to know what is causing our eyestrain. Thanks.

                                    Has anyone found a way to recover from eyestrain quickly, like, within a few hours? I am thinking of a medicine which can be purchased anywhere, possibly without prescription, such as an anti-inflammatory drug, a painkiller or a muscle relaxant.

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