Is there mac book that laptop newer then the M1 that works?

mirrormystic

Heya, just looking for something that works, has anyone had success with anything? Even if its a panel lottery, i don't buying a few machines and swaping

lukeb

Not that has worked for me. The best are the M1 and M2 13” pros (with the touch bar disabled). Next best is the M1 air. Even those best models aren’t comfortable for me. All of the 14” and 16” pros are terrible along with the M2-M4 airs. There does seem to be a panel lottery with the M2-M4 airs where some screens are less horrible, but still overall horrible.

DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs

lukeb

Agreed. Overall, people are the most lucky with the 13" entry-level "Touch Bar" M1/M2 Pros on here. Specifically, ones with long strings of "000000" in their Panel ID. (M2 Touch Bar Pros that have "FMX" in their Panel ID instead are known to be much worse than the "000000" models.)

However, if you already know you have a sensitivity to all IPS displays (such as me and I presume lukeb as well), those laptops won't really work either. They were not good enough for me.

Interestingly, the only current Apple product that felt OK for me is the Vision Pro of all things, lol (at least on one I tested with the 1.0 OS version)

Donux

lukeb What is the chance of me buying macbook pro 2019 16 inch (Or 15 inch as suggested by @NewDwarf) with intel and Radeon and having even better experience ? (I do not care about speed, the slower the better, more zen)

mirrormystic

@lukeb @DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs can you guys pls give more info on the panels that do work?

I just got a M3 MBA, and it's kinda okish after i turned of truetone, also had to turn it off on my iphone pro max 16 cuz changing screens gave me nausea.

| | "raw-panel-serial-number" = <"FP1HAH000CG00000CN+A+5ARP490068A3EG+PROD+Y436543714381+PA24R0802Y90140806+436T2427GF89900M46N427H41F48547N8110AJ7B4037761+E24402226441711144171Q44171A44172W441720A44172E4">

| | "coverglass-serial-number" = <"FP1HAH000CG00000CN">

Currently I find that it gives me a little nausea and tingle in the mornings, in the eves it's totally fine.

M1 Air was 95% great for me.

What laptops or LCDs did you guys end up buying?

Donux

I know this is out of scope of this thread, but what about last intel, for example 2019 Intel macbook 16 inch. I have seen these for sale fully loaded with 32 gigs or ram, 1 TB ssd etc. The PWM report on those is usually very high, and I believe consistency is there with these, you won't get low PWM. But it does not have severe dithering problems, nor high modulation flickers, meanining it will still be easier on the eyes, and when using external monitor, it won't "infect" the signal traveling to the monitor as much apple silicon models do. What do you think ?

NewDwarf

Donux MacBook Pro 2019 16” is bad one. It has active dithering. I wouldn’t recommend to buy it.

MacBook Pro 2019 15” is pretty comfort for eyes.

Donux

NewDwarf Good to hear before damage is done to my bank account 🙂

mirrormystic

I think thats a very low power'ed CPU

NewDwarf

mirrormystic MacBook Pro 14'' M4 is good to me. Use it every day. No any eyes specific problems.

Donux

NewDwarf Can you share your settings configuration, and exact model ? (is it with matte coating or not)

On reddit there are quite a few people who claim to experiene big eye strain with it.

Donux

Also in terms of old cheap stuff @NewDwarf do you know if 2012 mac mini is one that suppose to be good ?

mirrormystic

@NewDwarf can u post the panel serial number

ioreg -lw0 | grep -e "panel-serial-number" -e coverglass

and the specific model?

what settings did u work with?

NewDwarf

mirrormystic Here is the output

ioreg -lw0 | grep -e "panel-serial-number" -e coverglass

| | "raw-panel-serial-number" = <"FMXHE6006E100006J3+A+GE1S5101294923+PROD+Y449550135024+K41941193Y51041212+446C9GCP0924380J493000A4C94BS4A778203IAN51C4124+B2505710C507620J50761950762C50772950771065077200">

| | "coverglass-serial-number" = <"FMXHE6006E100006J3">

Regarding customized settings:

Disabled auto-brightness. Permanently use 8-9 brightness bars.
Switched screen resolution on 1352x878
Active "BetterDisplay" which only disables dithering.

mirrormystic

did u disable true tone? that helped me a lot on M3 MBA

NewDwarf

mirrormystic No. I always use true tone.

mirrormystic

I see you have the nano-texture display, is that right?

NewDwarf

mirrormystic No. Just a regular display.