TCL 60 NXTPAPER

K-Moss

I decided to go with the this model. Any reviews/experiences from those here? Seems like the best available right now for those wanting superior screen comfort.

Sunspark

Nobody here has it that I saw, but it seems like a very affordable device. Be sure to comment when you get it!

For those wondering, this device is an IPS LCD with a matte-ish coating and a button you can press to put it in greyscale mode.

My problem is that I have 2 LTE phones (Android, iOS) that both work for me. They are old now, but I don't play games or watch videos on them.. so I have no real reason to get another phone.

deepflame

Sunspark I have 2 LTE phones (Android, iOS) that both work for me.

Could you share your devices and OS versions? I could not find any of this information in some of your previous posts. Thanks!

Sunspark

There is no point getting them, they're old.

Samsung A70 on Android 9, iPhone X on iOS 16.7.11

I have even older devices that also work.

francerex

I have ordered a NXTPAPER 11 Plus to try out. Might get the 60SE if the experience goes well.

However, I fear my old and trusted iPhone 8 Plus is still a better phone than the 60SE on most parameters. Maybe 5G is an improvement?

Even battery is not too bad since I replace it myself

K-Moss

francerex I for one eagerly await your NXTPAPER experiences.

In one review I recently watched, it was said the TCL 60 XE NXTPAPER is using PWM but at a very high rate.

I don't like the idea of trying to outsmart the extremely sophisticated eyes and brain using extremely fast PWM.

For an IPS there should be no need for any PWM.

K-Moss

K-Moss Just heard from TCL that at least their current TCL 60 phone model uses dithering.

Didn't ask about the tablet, but I'd guess it is the same.

francerex

K-Moss https://youtu.be/jcRRpPEA78Q?si=rMp4hcm76KBvk2TR

K-Moss

"Regarding your inquiry about the TCL 60 XE NXTPAPER 5G screen specifications:
Yes, the device utilizes temporal dithering—also known as Frame Rate Control (FRC)—to enhance perceived color depth. It features a native 8-bit panel and employs FRC to simulate a higher bit-depth, effectively delivering smoother gradients and a broader range of colors. This method allows the panel to approximate 10-bit color output, improving the overall visual experience."

Why can't they be satisfied with 8 bits of color output or else use a real 10-bit panel? I don't understand why no matter which color depth these panels are, they almost always use FRC to increase the color depth. For an e-ink experience display, it's just bizarre using dithering when all the marketing about this display is about its eye comfort features.

Eye and brain comfort come first. Everything else is secondary.

Reinhard62

K-Moss

At least they were honest enough to admit it.

K-Moss

I got a totally different reply from TCL this time. Straight from their "tech team" I was told:

"1. The display does not use dithering (FRC). 2. It uses PWM dimming."

Totally contradictory, and now I'm confused.