Macbook M-(1, 2, 3, 4) Air do not have external display controller

Donux

Just a thought that explains at least my personaly experience. Macbook airs do not have external display controller that is why eye strain also comes back to "healthy" monitors. That is why weird behaviour is observed by changing icc profiles. Its the same pipeline design to safe costs. This machine was never designed to be used as desktop machine, rather it is a portable netbook, which could be pluged into a monitor for short periods, perhaps presentations or non heavy work. And these are fairly cheap machines considering its apple, so this is where stripping happens.

This also means PRO models, and Mac mini models should not cause eye strain on good monitors (and good configuration on user's side).

What are your thoughts on that?

DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs

Donux This also means PRO models, and Mac mini models should not cause eye strain on good monitors

I already know from experience that both intel and apple silicon macbook pros cause eye strain on otherwise known good monitors that work with other hardware. This assumption is incorrect, please don't contribute to spreading misinfo

Donux

DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs There must be objective fact with tech, and human eye strain condition, which is in some way shared, and in some way diverse. And I am not trying to spread misinformation, rather want to test the assumptions that is all. Its all about mapping cause -> effect, and there are probably multiple combinations of these that contribute to eye strain for some individuals. Now in this forum you had multiple people that have bought M4 Pro models and are fine. And there are some people who have bought M1 Pros and they are fine. All of them have suffered from eye strain to some degree from Air models. Yet there are people who can not tolerate neither screens, even from old macbooks. For example I came accross long time ago this blog:

https://medium.com/@anton.yeshchenko/how-macbook-screens-give-me-big-eye-aches-and-yes-i-have-seen-doctor-s-a6beea82c00c

He talks about intel macbook strain and how he tried all the different models and it did not really work.

For me however is different experience. I had very good macbook 2017 pro with zero strain (work laptop, pre-touchbar), and before M chips I have never had problems with macbooks running over external monitors, tried 2017 Macbook pro and mac mini, just do not remember the year, probably it was like 2014 or newer. External monitors I used one was - Dell, probably QHD, and then in other workplace so cheap crappy yellowy monitor that had zero color accuracy, but it was running mac mini and I have never ever had any words in my consciousness about eye strain, it was all about eye pleasure.

Donux

JTL TUV is poorly designed. If you read into it, you will see there is some sort of points system where they score points on flicker free and eye friendlyness, but they never expose those points to the consumer. So its all part of money making machine, not really working for the consumer. Consumers simply need to know PWM flicker and frequency for the basic start, and this can only be properly achieved using agencies that could enforce this in respective countries. Its not a big ask I think. Somehow, calories in foods, fat levels, saturated fat levels also were somewhat a mystery, but not anymore. Now people can compare food items like for like and make better informed decision. The same with computers. If consumer shops for let say premium consumer device, such as macbook pro or dell xps, maybe they should have "proper" specifications, but not washed out copyrighted mickey mouse version of specifications, which are desgined in their essense, to prevent comparison.

JTL

Donux Pretty much my impression as well, and what I consider the "bare minimum" at something tangible that could potentially be used for outreach.