Serious eyestrain and migraine

tck175

Reinhard62 Thanks! I still have experienced the same with windows 10. But I don’t know why i don’t have the problem with my company Lenovo computer , which was made in 2013 with windows 10. It’s so strange!

tck175

K-Moss Thanks ! I will try it . But can I still use the Office software in Ubuntu?

K-Moss

tck175 LibreOffice.

tck175

K-Moss thanks

AgentX20

Reinhard62 Windows 11 is the culprit.

It's never this simple or black and white.

Lots of folks here have problems with Windows 10. Even within Windows releases there are differing experiences. It's all a complicated mixture of screen (panel, pwm, dithering, strobing or wavelength spikes), video card (dithering of various types or other effects), operating system and the display subsystems, and to cap it off different software eg browsers can also have different effects in how they interact with the graphic subsystems.

AgentX20

tck175 I am getting serious eyestrain and migraine even using Windows 11 for few minutes in all latest computers which is affecting my work and my life.

However, my work computer, HP ProBook 445 G7 with Windows 10 pro installed in 2020, works fine with me with no eyestrain and migraine. I have been using windows for 30 years since windows 3.1. I am 45 years old.

See my previous comment on how complex this all is.

I suspect that with your HP laptop and Windows 10 you got lucky with a "good" configuration of OS, graphics card and driver, and laptop panel. I have a Lenovo P14S here like that on Windows 11 - it's goof and I can use it all day. But a different OS update on it at one point rendered it no good. Fortunately a reinstall got me back into a good place, else I dunno what I'd do for work. Also I have two almost identical laptops that I bought but they're not touch screen models like my good work laptop, and they're no good either as they presumably have a different panel - or I've just not got the right mix of drivers and os versions.

The risk there is it that if you change anything on your good laptop it could go bad for you and the result will be what you're experiencing with the Win 11 setups.

BTW Windows 8 doesn't have all the GPU accelerated display driver functions present in Windows 10 and 11 so is less prone to 'problems'.

tck175

AgentX20 Thanks and how to get a good computer ?

tck175

AgentX20 when I looked at the BIOS setup page in an old desktop computer (Lenovo M93p,2013) , I felt no problem. But when it was loading into the windows first page , the problem started. I don’t know why ? I even tried Ubuntu as above , it was the same . Is BIOS affecting the display card ?

tck175

AgentX20 what is the version of your Lenovo P14S? Which generation? Intel or AMD?

AgentX20

tck175 Thanks and how to get a good computer ?

Unfortunately, that's the million dollar question. After all these years I'm still none the wiser.

ocean10

tck175 @AgentX20 yeah I'd like to know this as well. It would be huge (literally life changing) if I could find a Windows 11 computer I could actually use.

AgentX20

tck175 what is the version of your Lenovo P14S? Which generation? Intel or AMD?

P14S Gen 3 AMD. But the one that works for me is a touchscreen model. The TWO near identical models I have that don't work so well are non-touchscreen.

Why one works better than the others I really don't know. All I can guess is that it's something to do with the panel.

tck175

K-Moss I tried Unbuntu 24.04 but still feel the same .

K-Moss

tck175 As mentioned, I don't know that Ubuntu is the best for eye comfort, only that I use it and it works fine for my needs. It's a popular operating system that works well for a great many people.

tck175

K-Moss no problem, I am willing to try any method which has possibilities to help. Thanks !

But it is strange that when I looked at the loading page , it was fine . But suddenly, the screen was flashed once , and I started to experience migraine. Don’t know why!

Reinhard62

ocean10

Windows 11 will always torture you with its dithering, no matter what kind of computer you use.

The only way to avoid this is to go back to Windows 10.

nruhmoment12

Reinhard62

Does windows 11 still somehow use dithering if the pipeline is 10bit and you explicitly disable dithering at the driver level?