2025 Eye Comfort Winner?

magi44ken

Peter Did you try different the color mode? Depends on which color mode you use, it turn on frc.

Peter

magi44ken I tried every tweak i read in the forum. I tried all color modes leaving some time between use of each one to see what happens. In every case I could not tolerate the display more than 10 mins.

Garman

K-Moss Is it free of dithering like the Moto G 2025?

K-Moss

Garman I can't say for sure, but one Moto G 2025 owner who tried out a number of higher res LCD devices said the higher res LCD phones usually dither. I just know I seem to be OK with the G55. Remember even most sensitive users aren't sensitive to dithering even if it exists. The visual world in the real world is highly dynamic, and dithering isn't at all as unnatural as PWM. I can say I don't see anything noticeable or obnoxious when analyzing the screen with another phone's camera system.

I say to be absolutely sure you have one of the most comfortable and calming displays, go with the G 2025. It runs really well even with the low specs. If you aren't extremely sensitive then the G55 is almost certainly perfect. I've seen some complaining about the G55, but it's the obsessive types on PWM_Sensitive who really can't use anything. They get these phones and stare at them intently looking for issues like stinging eyes and/or dizziness, and this reinforces their woe is me reality game. A good comedy would be watching one of them unbox a phone and test it for eye strain and/or headaches. Meanwhile the vast majority use Google, Samsung, Apple phones with no apparent issues at all.

Just got this anecdote:

"for some reason the Motorola IPS I purchased a year ago did really bother me which didn't make much sense so it seems that all cell phones bother me."

Exactly as I've supposed. If the Moto IPS phones bother you, almost certainly nothing is going to work.

They state also:

"I have not found any phone that works, so what I do is limit my cell phone time under 1-2 minutes."

QuitePainful

K-Moss Remember even most sensitive users aren't sensitive to dithering even if it exists.

Are there statistics on this?

K-Moss I've seen some complaining about the G55, but it's the obsessive types on PWM_Sensitive who really can't use anything. They get these phones and stare at them intently looking for issues like stinging eyes and/or dizziness, and this reinforces their woe is me reality game.

How exactly do you know what these people do with their phones? Is everyone who can't use the same devices as you "obsessive" and just imagining their symptoms?

K-Moss Meanwhile the vast majority use Google, Samsung, Apple phones with no apparent issues at all.

What exactly is your point here?

K-Moss Just got this anecdote:

"for some reason the Motorola IPS I purchased a year ago did really bother me which didn't make much sense so it seems that all cell phones bother me."

Exactly as I've supposed. If the Moto IPS phones bother you, almost certainly nothing is going to work.

So several people having issues with phones you've taken a liking to are "obsessive" and can be dismissed but one unsourced anecdote that might be interpreted as being in alignment with your suppositions is enough to confirm them?

karut

Peter Did you also disable Miravision?

One user on Reddit who experienced eye strain with the phone (even after selecting the non-dithering color mode and turning off nytpaper enhancements):

So nxtpaper enhancements off, miravision disabled and colour profile natural with no adaptive tone option with refresh rate set to smart instead of 60 or 120. Seems to work for me

K-Moss

QuitePainful Billions of people use Google/Samsung/Apple devices. All those devices have rather bad PWM. Yet those on here, and on PWM_Sensitive, require every thing to be just right else they can't use the device for 5 minutes.

Why is that? And why are 90% of those on these communities men?

Peter

karut Sorry I cant remember, I made so many adjustments the 3-4 days i tested the device based on various suggestions online. Probably yes but i can't be sure.

K-Moss

I'm now having good success with the Edge 2025 using these:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dev.rewhex.screendimmer
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mlhg.screenfilter

With Darker, I use a color filter at level 2 right now.

Twilight also works really well: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.lux

I keep the Edge on 100% brightness with flicker prevention enabled.

For a heavy user this may not be as good as IPS LCD, but for someone like me who tries to limit phone usage and doesn't want to be a heavy user, I'm getting along very well.

One of the main issues with OLED besides flicker is excessive contrast. This is effectively addressed by the apps above.

Does the screen look as good as before? No, it doesn't, but I don't use my phone to get dazzled by the screen. I use it to get things done.

You can also combine a good pair of computer glasses. The Edge has circular polarization, so you can use polarized sunglasses as well even in landscape mode.

Plus of the Edge is that it is a super nice premium device. It just feels better vs any G model. For something I pick up and use every day, a more premium experience does have merit.

radfaraf

Just got the Android 16 update downloaded and installed yesterday on the Motorola Moto G Power 2025 -- it must have just came out. Happy to have the latest android finally!

radfaraf

magi44ken It's slightly bigger, so it can't be exactly the same, but I think it tests the same as far as pwm etc..

QuitePainful

K-Moss That's what people are trying to figure out.

Since you said most people can use phones with no problems right after not taking the people having issues with Motorola phones seriously, I assumed you were trying to make some point to that end.

ensete

I tried that phone and couldn't use it more than 10 seconds.

People need to realize there is no universal device, of any type, that works for everyone. And stop assuming everyone is impacted by PM, or flicker, or dithering. Literally none of those thing have anything to do with my symptoms, for example, and it's irritating to constantly hear people screaming about them as though they found the holy grail of our problem.

K-Moss

ensete Which phone did you try that you could not use for more than 10 seconds? For clarity, are most phones so bad for you that you can't use them for more than a minute?

K-Moss

I just picked up the Moto G 2025 once again. It's got a more comfortable screen than anything else I've tried in the modern smartphone space. Better than the G55.

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