Psychosomatic screen symptoms?

K-Moss

I started reading through this forum and saw everything people were saying about this sensitivity and… BAM! The very next day, I had all the symptoms: dizziness, vertigo, nausea, and pulsations in my temples. Now I can’t use my phone or any of the TVs at home (they’re OLEDs) for more than 10 seconds without all those symptoms appearing. However, I can use my work monitor (LCD) and an old iPhone 8 I still have without any problem, for long periods of time.

I know it could be psychological, but the symptoms feel VERY, VERY REAL, so I don’t think it’s a nocebo effect. It feels like I suddenly and abruptly became hypersensitive to PWM.

Right now, I feel really, really bad. I’ve had five horrible years dealing with chronic stress, tinnitus, floaters, multiple chemical sensitivity, and now this… I consider myself a strong person, but I think this new sensitivity might completely break me. I’m a huge technology fan — I was supposed to pick up the new iPhone 17 Pro Max yesterday, but I had to cancel it. Instead, I just bought a second-hand iPhone 11 because I need a phone for work, and in three weeks I’m going on vacation for two weeks…

Thank you for reading — I just needed to vent.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PWM_Sensitive/comments/1nyu82k/resignation_one_more_sensitivity_to_add_to_my/

This is another case of someone becoming hypersensitive to OLED, not LCD.

cooldudz

K-Moss You need to stop reading into and placing so much weight on what randoms are the internet are writing. Honestly man. I say this for both yours and my sake, as I've been realizing lately I've been wasting way too much time on reddit and message boards like this where after a certain point, I gain nothing and honestly think I regress. I regress in intelligence reading their "thoughts". I regress in my character as their moral depravity infects me. I regress in empathy as their arrogance and stupidity irks me.

I mean read what this guy wrote dude;

"After a stressful period and two or three nights of poor sleep, I decided to look into what the new PWM feature on the iPhone 17 Pro was about. As I mentioned before, my eyes were getting very tired with my current iPhone, so I wanted to know if this new configuration could improve things.

I started reading through this forum and saw everything people were saying about this sensitivity and… BAM! The very next day"

He was primed to become screen sensitive. Had 3 nights of poor sleep, is using an iphone 14 PRO, which he admits to giving him dry eye (a precursor to all this), and then wakes up the next day after a stressful period and two or three nights of poor sleep feeling bad. Could there be something pyschosomatic going on? I don't doubt its part of it. One variable in all of it. But to discount the physiological variables at play here is asinine. He even says,

"I’ve had five horrible years dealing with chronic stress, tinnitus, floaters, multiple chemical sensitivity"

This dude was meant to have screen sensitivity.

K-Moss

cooldudz He developed screen sensitivity from and with OLED, not LCD. No need to overcomplicate it. His situation is not unique. Once his brain understood the harms of OLED screens, it rejected them outright within 10 seconds of exposure.

Nickonomic

K-Moss

Pretty sure that most of us here developed the sensitivity before any OLED exposure. Possibly, before it was even invented.

Psychosomatic factor is at play but only to a certain extent. It is severe symptoms that make people seek help and find LEDStrain forum. Not the other way around.

cooldudz

K-Moss No. No one is overcomplicating anything. Literally look at what he wrote and put it together logically. This guy was already on his way to screen sensitivity from all his preexisting symptoms. Did all his screens being OLED help facilitate that process and accelerate it? Yes, I'm with you on OLED screens being some weird alien tech that is hurting us. But I don't think the answer for everyone is, "JuSt UsE iPs ScReEnS", because like many people on this forum keep repeatedly telling you, they get symptoms from using IPS screens.

This is the problem with you and guys your age. You fixate on one single thing and then are stuck in this mind loop. I've written some stuff, that you responded to with things that come completely out of left field, because it's stuck in your mind and you need to project it onto others to be able to process it yourself. My father does this same thing where I'm talking to him about one thing, and then he responds with, "same thing with x", which is a COMPLETELY unrelated topic that he references to because it's likely stuck in his mind and he needs to express it to get out of the mind loop/emotional strain it's putting him through.

To you, everyone here's problem is OLED, even if many others on this forum such as myself say we have problems with IPS screens. The second I read he wrote his screens are all OLED, I knew you were going there. You need to seriously go outside and go for walks. I I don't mean that in a snarky, "go touch some grass way", but in a genuine, "I'm trying to help you" way. You are constantly stuck in loops. You will never get any fruitful conversations with anyone because your conversations are one-sided. You never truly listen. You just want to hear stuff that validate your bias and keep you stuck in your loop. Anything that even remotely challenges you and breaks you out of your programming, you reject in an emotional manner by insulting the other person and their viewpoint. This is why you spam multiple threads a day and 90% of them get ignored by everyone. Because they've seen you, seen who you are, and refuse to engage with you. You are trapped, alone, in your own mind.

Go for a walk.

Seagull

cooldudz This is exactly what he needs to hear, I'm glad someone had the patience to explain it to him. We'll see if it sticks.

K-Moss

cooldudz "I'm with you on OLED screens being some weird alien tech that is hurting us."

Can you go into more detail on that? I agree there is something very bizarre about OLED, how it got here, and how it is manufactured and implemented. Moreover, it causes far more problems than LCD ever has. Not just the obvious symptoms people get, but there ought to be less overt damages from those OLED screens that is less easy to identify.

Seagull

K-Moss For the love of christ man, its just a phrase! OLED is not some alien technology, its LEDs maufactured using organic compounds - that's a chemistry term. Go take a mentat or something.

K-Moss

Seagull You act like everything in this reality is so simple a child can make sense of it. I disagree. There is much more going on here than is comprehensible to a juvenile mind.

Seagull

K-Moss

It is simple when you know how, I know how because I spent 10 years at university and the last 5 years in an R&D job. I know science and engineering.

You don't understand these things because you don't have enough knowledge. You take something complex like a display technology, and instead of trying to understand it or using knowledge you posses, you jump straight to simple but false explanations.

K-Moss There is much more going on here than is comprehensible to a juvenile mind.

So educate your juvenile mind.

If you want to really understand how things work you need to put hundreds to thousands of hours of learning in. You want to learn how display technologies work? you need to start with high school level physics textbooks to give you the basic knowledge you need to understand the university level text books that will explain it.

K-Moss

Seagull You're not going to find any profound knowledge at the universities. I'm done engaging with you.

Seagull

K-Moss Here's where your pathology comes into the light. I've pointed out what it takes to understand the display technologies that you pretend to understand. You could have said Yes Seagull, I will go out and seek knowledge so that I can make informed decisions and share insight. But instead you've retreated back to the safety of your conspiracies, you understand them, but of course you do, they were designed to be easily digestible by people with limited experience and knowledge to make them feel smart.

K-Moss

Seagull "I am so angry you are on this forum slinging nonesense"

No one cares how angry you are. People have a right to read what they want to read and think their own thoughts. You have no control over others. Get lost.

Eyeve-had-it

K-Moss

No one cares how angry you are.

Objectively false - I care, because I too am angry that you are on this forum slinging nonsense. Angry enough, in fact, that I finally decided to stop lurking and make an account. I am particularly angered because your nonsense-slinging is directly harming the rest of us; for the sheer volume of your posts is apt to make any screen-unaffected individuals who happen upon this forum think that we're all deranged conspiracy theorists like yourself.

My anger is, however, mitigated by the fact that the people here are finally having enough of your nonsense and standing up to you. This is the only way to make sure that people will not end up thinking that this whole "LED sensitivity" thing is some unfounded conspiracy theory and give us a chance of something actually being done about it.

And while I'm airing my grievances, I seem to recall that some of your slung nonsense was about women not being affected by screen sensitivity; oh how I wish that were true, for if it were, I would not have been subjected to months of your inane diatribes while I was simply searching for relief, or at the very least solidarity.

But now that I think about it, it may be too optimistic of me to expect that you would parse any of that given your previous behavior in this thread. So since conspiracy theories are your language, how about this: who's to say that you aren't actually an industry plant sent to discredit us so that screen manufacturers never have to lose a few pennies of profit making screens that are accessible and safe for everyone? 🙂

K-Moss

Eyeve-had-it It's an inclusive community. You have contributed nothing. Show some respect for differing people and differing views and thoughts. I took offense with and reported Seagull only when he became personally insulting and abusive.

To be clear, I don't speak for or represent this community. I contribute as a free individual with his own unique thoughts and insights. The reader can respect and learn from what I share or not. They are in control, not you.

ensete

Yes, this is a very real thing, and very well documented. Sometime when I think about a past migraine attack, I feel symptoms coming on.

Your brain is not very good at distinguishing the difference between things that are actually happen and things that are strongly imagined and visualized. It's the whole basis of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.