K-Moss do you know the minimal brightness value of VA249? (currently, I have to use Eizo's IPS model because I need quite low minimal brightness but I would love to try VA).

    anyone Unfortunately I can't tell you that. However one of the the nice things about VA is being able to use a dark or black theme, which VA does very well, and another thing is that VA has good contrast even when you take the contrast control down after taking down the brightness.

    Also, I've read good things about this TN unit: https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-24MK400H-B-led-monitor

    I was going to get one to see how it is because it's a cheap unit with excellent reviews and no one complaining about any eye strain. However, my Amazon site sold out of them after stocking them at a very attractive price level.

    I believe the VA249 may be a bit better, but since I didn't get the LG to test, I don't really know. LG says the viewing angles are only

    Viewing Angle 90Âş (R/L), 65Âş (U/D)

    And the Asus is supposed to have 178Âş viewing angles, but I haven't read anyone complaining about the LG's viewing angles. Maybe that could be because people are easily pleased when they don't pay much? I don't know. TN used to have bad viewing angles, but people don't seem to complain about the current generation units.

    In general, I recommend buying from a place like Amazon where you can try out the unit for 30 days before returning it if need be for a full refund. There's no substitute for using the monitor in your own home environment.

      K-Moss ok thank you, I'll take a look at both (but I need really low brightness so most of the monitors don't fit my needs).

        anyone The LG seems to have a high minimum brightness?

        Brightness 150cd/m² (Min.), 200cd/m² (Typ.)

          K-Moss oh, yes, thank you, I know about this list (that's how I choose my Eizo), but there are no good VA models there (actually I'm pretty sure VA monitors with a very low brightness doesn't exist so I asked just in case).

            anyone Have you considered trying the blue light settings in an Asus Eye Care VA like the VA249 or else using a "night light" tool in your OS to make the screen warmer? This may allow you to use a brighter screen, particularly if you have a nearby incadescent lamp to provide some room lighting. When I turn on my "Night Light" in Ubuntu, it takes the sharpness out of the display even though my brightness and contrast levels are at daytime levels, and I am sitting in a dark room without any ambient lighting. This tool allows me to make the screen less warm or more warm depending on where I put the slider.

              a month later

              f3likx Hi how are your eyes now? I made a post here related to my issues https://ledstrain.org/d/963-1500-down-the-toilet-lg-38gl950g its odd given my ipad 10.1 IPS 120hz gives me no eye strain whatsoever yet this thing is burning me after 2 minutes!!

              Not sure if you have used this site before https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/a51ef5e - nice breakdown
              https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg_32gk850g.htm a review on the monitor

              Maybe something in there might help?

              https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/1a1f16d6
              Mine is https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg_38gl950g.htm

              You can use the site to also do a comparison like between mine and yours:

              https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/comparison/917eb301a

              Instantly I notice that there is no FRC on yours. Someone mentioned cables earlier, not sure if thats a thing but this is the first time im outputting a mini dp to DP 1.4, I used to be on Dual DVI, sadly I sold my old monitor and now I'm in a bit of a pickle!!

              Your contrast is 3000:1 to my 1000:1
              Yours is AMVA to my IPS
              Yours is 93 PPI to my 111
              both backlights are W-led
              I have dynamic contrast also (? Sounds like changing perhaps!)
              I have HDR which is disabled
              Similar refresh rates
              My ports are HDMI 2 & DP 1.4 vs your HDMI 1.4 and DP 1.2

              Ironically in this blog for best eye care monitors the no1 recommendation is the ASUS PB278Q which is the one that was destroying your eyes! So if we compare this to your current one we get this:

              https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/comparison/07e0139da3

              It is a PLS panel (no idea what that is!)
              higher pixels than yours
              but heres something interesting, its 1000:1 contrast same as mine and it also has dynamic contrast too.
              It doesn't have FRC
              Mine doesn't have horizontal frequency (IPS) yours has horizontal and vertical
              It also has the same ports as yours

              My old monitor I could work all day on, with a little bit of grief here and there but often I could game until 3am if I chose too and recover after having breakfest enough to be able to continue working again.

              That one was https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/comparison/a98f139db1 and it had 1000:1 contrast also like my current one

              What about Chroma, could turning off RGB help at all?

              Other than this I've also found a guide on viewing distance

              Im trying still with my current monitor but after 3 hrs today my eyes are ready to jump out of their sockets again!!

              7 months later

              K-Moss I got that LG monitor, and it has a few issues. Its not a 8 bit panel, and it using horrible static dithering thats very visible with some shades. Images also look lower resolution thanks to this. It also has strong inversion flickering. Its not the worst on the eye, but its not a good monitor overall, not worth buying.

                Random Which LG exactly? I made my posts in this thread quite a while ago.

                  K-Moss Sorry i didnt notice the post is so old. The LG 24MK400H-B is not very good. This monitor also confirmed me that AMD does color dithering, because the static dither on the monitor becomes very "noisy" when its enabled. I was able to turn AMD dithering off with regedit, and all the noisy animated pattern is gone. But the inversion is big issue with this cheap monitor.

                  8 months later

                  I'm that kinda person that cannot stay in front of a screen for long enough. One of my friends suggested me a monitor BenQ GW2480 24 Inch IPS Monitor and it is one of the best monitors I've used. I couldn't find this monitor anywhere. I started looking online and I found this website: best computer monitor for eye strain. They have pretty decent types of computer monitors ranging in different prices.

                  a month later

                  So basically nobody really knows what causes the eye strain. I'm beginning to think the problem of eye strain is a multifaceted issue. For me the following measures collectively have made a difference. I can't say which one of them is the most effective one, since they all seem to help:

                  • Increasing the font size and sitting further back, because it's easier to focus on "far and big" than "near and small". Also, near and small forces your eyes to converge (at the extreme you'd be crossing your eyes), which is also tiring.
                  • Using the Night Light function in Windows (basically a blue light filter I think, the screen turns reddish).
                  • Adjusting display brightness to match ambient light levels.
                  • Using a monitor with deeper blacks for better contrast (this enables you to turn down the brightness even further and still see detail).
                  • Using a flicker-free display. My Samsung phone is not flicker-free and it starts raping my eyes within seconds.
                  • Placing the monitor at a comfortable viewing height, that is, with the top bezel slightly below eye height.
                  • Using a larger display because a bigger screen keeps my eyes moving and refocusing all the time, depending on which part of the screen I'm looking at. On a small screen eye movement is more constrained and feels a bit like sitting in a plane seat for hours which can cause discomfort and you feel the need to stretch your legs.
                  • Placing a light behind my monitor pointed at the wall to create a light bias. This results in a more even distribution of light over the retina, rather than just a bright rectangle surrounded by darkness.
                  11 days later

                  I'm new to the forum, and wanted to say I concur. It's absolutely multifaceted. I went into my eye doctor complaining about neck and shoulder pain, dry eyes, tired eyes, hard to maintain eye contact with people close to me, eyes hurting during work hours, and all the rest. He had a machine to do testing and suggested rather eye therapy, or contoured prisms ("Neurolens"). I took the glasses approach, and have experienced immense relief. This is anecdotal, but if anybody here has tried literally everything else, consider giving the Neurolens a shot. Worse case scenario, you return them and get your money back. Eye therapy is also effective, though I haven't tried that.

                  In terms of monitors, I recently got some curved anti-flicker VA panels, and set them further back on my desk, and it's been wonderful. Sure, they have less color, but the lack of punchy colors and vividness has been nice. In addition to the neurolens, although I haven't been cured by any means, the eye strain/pain has rarely been something I think about. It's there, as I notice once or twice in a week, but most of the time it's barely an inconvenience.

                  • mike replied to this.

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                    People on this forum have big problems with newer screens. Tension headache, red burning eyes and so on. Probably because BVD or something similar eye-problem that triggers on dithering and similar tech.

                    When I read your first three posts it doesn’t sounds that you have that problem. It sounds more like you are advertising Neurolens in every post.

                    I agree with you, BUT the Neurolens seems to be the best tool that we have to fight against BVD.

                    I think all the people on this forum (living in the US) should try them because if the problem is the BDV and not the PWM sensitivity they should work.

                    If PWM sensitivity is the problem, they obviously won't do anything.

                    In my case that I can use the OLEDs (despite the 240hz flickering of the iphone X) I shouldn't have problems with the PWM but "only" BVD and the neurolens should work. But I live in Italy so it's pretty complex and expensive to go to the US for one pair of glasses.

                      Lauda89 I agree with you, BUT the Neurolens seems to be the best tool that we have to fight against BVD.

                      I would say that the eyepatch is the best tool. At least for me it have been a total game changer, and it helps many on this forum.

                      How many on this forum have had some success with Neurolens? Just curious to know how good they are.

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