Maxx I'm really interested to know what happens from an R&D perspective with this new technology.

Surely all these artifacts/flickering are known to the designers of this tech because it would have been designed by them. Taking away the energy-saving argument (which is one everybody will stand for now), there is no reason nowadays why we can't have a flicker free, artifact free display. We know it can be done, it just has to be implemented.

      Dont forget to try reading glasses as part of the solution. orange tinted ones working great for me

      Maxx interesting I can't use tube TVs except for Sony Trinitron TVs because it uses a different method for producing the image. I play retro games on it all the time no issues. Hackaday website explains it really well and apparently they had the rights to their method for 30 years.

        diop Linus tech tips made a great video I believe it's a few weeks old about what goes into making a monitor and it's super complicated. Also we are not even close in tech to be able to create a perfect screen. 1000hz refresh would solve most people's problems. Tons of information on the blur busters website about this. The guy who runs that site knows more then anybody I have ever seen when it comes to screens. I believe the fastest screen in existence he is helping oculas rift design it. He has achieved faster speeds on LED then even CRTs can achieve. Tons of incredible advice on that site. Prepare to be over whelmed.

          1000Hz will not solve it. I suspect that there are many people who are sensitive to PWM, that will get the symptoms with much higher than 1000Hz too. My Sony Xperia Premium is OK, when I run an app that prevents the screen to go below 34% brightness. First couple of months I used it, it killed my eyes. Then Notebookcheck confirmed that there is a PWM of was it 2300Hz under 34% brightness. Now after using it for 2 years with the software that prevents the screen going below 34Hz, it causes no problems.

            Maxx I run an app that prevents the screen to go below 34% brightness.

            Which app is that? Thanks!

              Maxx you are talking about the Flicker frequency and I am taking talking about Refresh rate. The device you have most likely only has a refresh rate of 60hz. We are heading to a future where soon most if not all devices will be flicker free. 8 phones in the last couple months have come out that use DC dimming. I think most people will find that flicker free is not going to solve all their issues as we already know. Most people on this site can't use flicker free monitors. It will take a 165hz LED or higher just to even feel like a 60hz tube TV. LED doesn't use phospor on the blue portion of its light. Way harder on our eyes. New LEDs are out now very expensive but have a phosphor on R G and B. Then there are other issues for example playing a Nintendo switch on a 60hz screen can cause all sorts of different issues. A lot of switch games are locked at 30fps and that will create double images on 60hz. On an LED screen that could be pretty harsh. Probably why people complain about different systems causing eye pain on here. What about watching movies 24fps again can create different problems for people. Even OLED can be pretty rough playing movies. That even causes strain. Faster refresh rate would help most people on here who get stuck staring at a screen all day at work. Look how excited everyone was on the one plus 7 90hz refresh rate. Scrolling through text was so much smoother and easier on the eyes. That being said I'm happy for anyone on here who can find a screen that works for them. I have learned we all see different and it will take different panels for each individual person. I found I perform best with TN gaming panels. Sony Wega tube TVs and flicker free OLED and plasma. I stick to these screens no eye pain.

                  jasonpicard I tend to agree. However, I use to get by fine with 120hz monitors, and now they give me trouble as well. Not sure if that's me or if new technology has made it so 120hz is no longer enough to cover up whatever else is causing irritation.

                  I'm going to try a gaming 240hz monitor next and see how that works.

                    3 months later

                    Today I met an orthoptist, here is the result:

                    I got the same conclusion from both a optician and today a orthoptist. My eyes have trouble focusing. When I look at a pencil and they move it closer to my nose it's very hard to handle for my eyes. And with "screens" it gets out of hands ...

                    So now it's training: with one eye, that have give my great progress.

                    I've bought an Alienware AW2518HF two years ago and it works fine for me(it was my 4th monitor that i tryed that year, and the only one it worked)!

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