Temporal Dithering Sensitivity - My Solution
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That is my memory of using the Lenovo Legion 5, that using the Nvidia control panel to discrete mode was like using the switch in BIOS. You’re right though, I can’t be 100% sure. I hope I didn’t give bad advice.
I am wondering how you set up your display mode settings in the Nvidia control panel, and what is the result in the device manager. Did you change to Nvidia GPU only in the Nvidia Control Panel? Are both Intel and Nvidia present in the device manager, or just Nvidia?
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So it has arrived!
I managed to set it as Nvadia GPU only in the Nvadia display settings. However, in control panel it still has the Intel UHD graphics listed and enabled. With it like this I can change brightness still.
Do I need to disable the Intel UHD there as well? Doing so means I can't change brightness . Is it necessary for me to disable it in device manager as well or can I trust that selecting is in nvadia will do the job ?
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JonnyT My statement about it being removed from the device manager is incorrect!
If you want to make 100% sure you are using the Nvidia graphics, you can boot into the BIOS and set it there. I read your machine has the option to do that (hopefully I’m not wrong on that count!).
Turn this off. According to Dell manual it’s in the Display subsection.
degen app I went into bios and turned off the hybrid option you explained. The only difference I notice compared with turning it off through nvadia direct is that the machine is noisier (fan comes on and off- won’t go onto quiet mode). It’s still enabled in device manager. I can disable it for what it’s worth but then I can’t adjust brightness.
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JonnyT I guess the machines are configured differently by the manufacturer. On the Lenovo Legion 5, Intel graphics is removed from the device manager completely when disabling hybrid graphics in the BIOS (this still didn't make the machine usable for me, but this is a different story). I remember that clearly.
I also remember that in the Nvidia control panel in Display Modes, when Advanced Optimus is enabled (I believe you have disabled it now), you can see which display adapter "drives the laptop display" (as in the Nvidia link si_edgey posted). It will say:
Current Status: [Depending on settings, Intel or Nvidia GPU here]
That the machine is noisier is a good sign that you are set to the Nvidia graphics.
The display output is different when in Nvidia vs Intel graphics mode. With experimentation, I think you will be able to feel it. For me, Nvidia output wasn't the cure, but it was definitely different. Since you have the machine, spend some time in each mode.
Edit: For posterity. One of the interesting things about the Lenovo Legion 5 I briefly owned is that the Intel graphics could be completely disabled from the BIOS by switching to Discrete graphics mode (MUX switch). This had the advantage of allowing me to install the Nvidia graphics adapter in Windows 8 with no need to install the Intel adapter (which would not install in Windows 8 or older versions of Windows 10 anyway), and have full control over the brightness, etc. The Intel graphics adapter was not present in the device manager, at all, when in this mode.
degen having spent the day on it today- I still felt nauseous :-(
I would have thought there would have been an obvious improvement but to be honest I don’t see much difference. I want to give it longer than the 2 weeks I’ll have but think I’ll be sending it back most likely. What to try next I don’t know but I don’t think the whole nvidia cpu gsync thing is the solution for me :-(
I wish I had a usable laptop to work on :-(
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I am wondering if dithering on PCs would be limited to laptop chips and not desktop ones? Is there any merit in that thought?
My understanding is Intel has specific chips for laptops and different ones for desktops. There would be no need for dithering to occur on a desktop chip.
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Sunspark It appears that on the Windows drivers for Broadwell that I use, when the HDMI cable is set for YCbCr w/ IT Content off (I have not tested if the combo of both is required or just one or the other, will have to test this out later on) dithering is actually DISABLED by default in the Intel drivers and ditherig is not needed.
I found something very interesting:
"YCbCr w/ IT Content off" (in the intel settings) does give banding (so, probably, no TD) on my external monitor! Ditherig.exe alone does not.
Until now, I had thought I could never cure TD on my external monitor.
I wonder why this combo gives banding (and what "IT Content" does in the first place).
Edit: Found a great explanation of "IT Content":
This option enables the display to use its own video quality processing algorithms, instead of the Intel® Graphics Driver, for movies played in full screen mode to ensure videos quality. The user can enable or disable IT Content.
Note that this option is only visible if you plug a HDMI monitor (or HDMI adapter cable) to your laptop.
logixoul Are you sure about it? I had this option off by default, and I have never seen any banding on my laptop + HDMI screen configuration
arturpanteleev I suppose your HDMI screen is higher-quality, i.e. it supports true 8-bit color (or even true 10-bit color). My screen is 6-bit, I believe.
Note that I'm using YCbCr ON (and IT Content OFF). They're not both off.
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logixoul You are right. I use Dell2715h with natural 8 bit. I have another display at work (6+2frc). I will try it next week.
Thank for correcting with it content.
