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  • New Graphics Card Eye Strain Issue - Could Motherboard Impact It?

Maybe different Intel GOP firmware or microcode can affect the Intel integrated graphics? Not sure. For that reason I am suspicious of BIOS updates. Maybe different motherboards come stock with different versions of this firmware and microcode. I don’t really don’t know and am just speculating.

  • JTL replied to this.

    degen Don't have any references handy, but I do believe the system BIOS can configure integrated graphics to use dithering by default in certain circumstances.

    10 days later

    Yes, your proposal it is true. I bought two different laptops with the same intel hd 620 videochip. But they have different generation of processor (8 vs 11) and of course different motherboard. And laptop with intel 8 i can use with external display successfully, but i have trouble with other laptop with 11 intel. This shit make me really angry, i have seen that reason could be EVERYTHERE - display, gpu, processor, motherboard - everething else. It makes my tries to figure out with my problem senceless (

    I doubt it. I suppose the problem is (OS and/or videodriver+health)-related. For example I can use GTX 970 in win 7 without eyestrain but I can't do it in Win 10/Linux. In win 10 I can use only intel graphics 630 (without any nvidia driver and GPU installed simultaneously). I don't know for sure, but probably even modern video cards can be used in win 7 except for gaming. Essentially it is a health issue. So now I can't stand pc/ps/xbox gaming no matter the videocard and OS. But I could play mobile games before android 12…. And now I have to reset to factory settings my firmware) I wonder what I will do when there is no more device my eyes can stand)

    i try my vga in another motherboard and procesor. My previous mb is gigabyte a320m and procesor is ryzen 5 3500x. Then i try in msi mag b660m mortar wifi and intel i5 12400. With same gpu. And not change, still have eye problem exactly same. So the problem is gpu i think

      ludwig And did you have a chance to try with a good graphics card? The one that is OK in the old motherboard and is OK in the new one as well? Thanks!

        is there anyone here who cant tolerate 1660 Tuf?

        machala my very best graphic card is gtx 1660 super inno3d vram samsung. Zero eye strain. Now i use rtx 3070 zotac vram samsung, still cause a bit dry eyes but no headache at all so i can tolerate it

          ludwig Hi, thanks for the info, but my question was different… the card that is "good" (e.g. inno3d 1660 super), is it good the very same way in both motherboards? The one with the old chipset as well as the B660?

            machala i haven't try my gtx 1660 super to my 660m motherboard cause i have sell it. j just try my rtx 3070 in old and new motherboard and no diferent at all

              machala It should be fine. I have kept a "good for me" video card through 4 motherboards and it has stayed good all the time.

              All of the display functionality is on the card itself. All the PCI bus is doing is sending instructions (and some power) to the card.

                ensete Thanks for the reassurance, however I bought a new PC without a graphics card and I'm swapping different graphics cards in it to find the "right" one, tried two so far, no luck. And I was very conservative in my choices: MSI 1660 Super Ventus and a Gigabyte 1050 Ti. I don't even think about trying the 2xxx and 3xxx cards… I'm starting to fear the MB might have some impact after all, although it just makes no sense…
                Can I ask you what your latest motherboard is? Mine is a Gigabyte B660 Gaming X…

                  ludwig Thanks. Too bad that you sold it, I might even be tempted to buy it from you for a good price… I believe I saw in another thread your latest motherboard is a MSI B660M, is that true? I'm starting to fear there might be some issue with the B660 chipset motherboards. Before this PC I have now I had a chance to try out a different build using MSI B660M and an MSI 1650 Ventus…and it was also bad.
                  On the contrary I have Win 10 laptops, one with a Quadro that are actually good. Not perfect, but quite OK for me… so Win10 can't be the primary problem for me (yes, it's worse than Win7, but still acceptable for me). Moreover I see the issue in BIOS as well…

                    machala

                    And I was very conservative in my choices: MSI 1660 Super Ventus and a Gigabyte 1050 Ti.

                    Not universally known as safe choices. Some more recently reported the 1660 Super as a safe choice, but to be really sure you have a "safe" Nvidia card you need to use a Keper series card or else the highest card you can use is a GTX 970 with earlier VBIOS. Probably these "safe" cards dither as well but with a different less aggravating algorithm as compared to post GTX 970 (or 970 after VBIOS change) cards.

                    I think it's a good idea to have an old cheap Kepler card like Quadro K4000 or other as a reference.

                      machala yes i use motherboard MSI B660M, my old motherboard gigabyte a320m v2, and i think no different at all. Everything is same. Before that i use gtx 1660s inno3d vram micron, hyenix, gtx 1660 ti,rtx2060 micron, rtx 3060 ti hyenix,rtx 3050 and all of them make me eye strain. Then i buy rtx zotac 3070 vram samsung because my gtx 1660s that suit me use vram samsung too and much better although still feel little bit dry eyes. First, i think vram is the cause. Until last week i came to computec festival in my town. I try play game GOW in stand and i can play without eye strain. And i see spec that computer is rtx 3090 micron hahaa, maybe the cause is not vram, maybe it's just bad card that is not compatible with our eyes

                      Xbox series s, ps5, ps 4, ps 4 pro, switch v1, switch v2,, all of them cause heavy eye strain on me.

                        ludwig So how do you guys figure out if the given card has Samsung RAM? It's not specified anywhere and even if you have the card in your hand all the internal components are covered by the cooling setup, so you don't see it unless you take the heatsink off…?

                          degen I see, thanks a lot. The problem is these cards can no longer be purchased as new - with one exception, the GT 730. Do you believe it could be a safe reference?

                          • JTL replied to this.

                            machala Don't know for certain but I potentially recall something about a newer hardware revision of some of the 700 series cards being "unusable". Caveat emptor.

                            Motherboard have impact here. I have not tried graphics cards. But My Intel Core i5 3440T with only certain motherboards are giving relief. So motherboard also should be a factor.

                            dev