Thanks to everyone who has replied. Ive found the 14 to be unusable even in the store. its annoying Apple isn't letting 100% brightness be DC dimming with the newer phones.

a month later

MTNEYE Hi did you replace your 12 mini oled panel with an incell LCD panel? How is the quality of the screen and did it still cause any strain? I am thinking about buying a 12 pro and replacing its screen with an lcd panel from ifixit but this might be an expensive trial.

    MattG Hey how is your iPhone 12 Pro Max with the LCD screen replacement? Does it cause any strain or is it still as good as your XR? Can you help me a little bit about how you went about replacing your panel and where you were able to find it? Thanks.

      5 days later

      I came across this site today. My iPhone 11 is failing, so I was browsing the web.

      I went to Verizon today, took a slow mo of each iPhone 14 (10 seconds each). So roughly 30-60 seconds looking at the 3 of them. I could barely walk out of the store and drive home. My eyes felt full of pressure, my face got hot, I was nauseous, headache.

        So I am thinking about buying an iPhone 14 and replacing the screen with an LCD from Mobile Sentrix.

        Has anyone done something similar? Did it help?

          I just got off the phone with Apple, had a lengthy chat with them discussing all of this, the effects, the community etc.

          They want "us" to go to https://www.apple.com/feedback/ and list out all of the facts, stats, and reasoning for an LCD variant of their phones moving forward. Even possibly the 14 if the push is overwhelming.

          I think it would be best if we had someone make up a template that we could all send ourselves listing the requested information, but just change our name on each one.

          It would also be good to get this out to every forum/subreddit that this community hangs out in.

          Can we make this happen?

          13 days later

          I am one of the affected users , i had iphone X for a year when it was launched , had headaches and migraines for few months didn’t realize it was oled pwm, now i have permanent migraine and dizziness, i am on iPhone 11 , did try iPhone 14 pro and same problem, i am really worried for future since it will be all OLED and iPhone 11 won’t last long , i hope apple fixes this

          12 days later

          JRUK Since the X left me feeling very unwell I started on this journey of finding out about PWM etc. Now the world is filled with PWM issues from the flashing lights in my office to the lights and screens they put in cars. It's depressing.

          OMG it is as though what you have said was spoken right out of my mouth! I am still holding on dearly to my iPhone 7 Plus from 2016. I have changed the battery, changed the broken glass screen and did everything to prolong the life of this last great LCD iphone I have owned.

          The issue I have with XR and 11 aside, there is no way I can go back to using 828 resolution screen.

          Look, about what you have highlighted above about PWM everywhere, it is something I have been actively researching about as well. If you suffer from chronic migraine, it is no surprise that each episode may last up to 72 hours on average. I too suffer from this thus I believe I am more familiar about this than most people outside.

          PWM by itself is not the worst problem. The problem becomes worse when office/street use very high intensity brightness lamps and also changed the colour temperature from the traditional white light to a bluish- light. This bright and bluish-light combination is supposed to keep us active, alert and be more productive throughout the day. However for individuals like us, it is simply way overkill. Hence our nervous system interpret these lights as threats and respond to them as persistent migraine.

          To reduce the way our body react to the above, the best workaround is to wear FL-tinted glasses. Do look it on it. It works by blocking out wavelengths responsible for triggering our migraine. Cautious though that a number of manufacterers will claim they are using FL-41. For reduced response to flickering, FL-41 tinted works best. For bright and glaring lights, dark polarized lens works best against them. For bluish-light at night(they are less noticable during the day), blu-light blocker lens that blocks over 99% of blue light works best.

              7 days later

              Tobiyas last great LCD iphone I have owned.

              iPhone SE, for now, does not use OLED.

                a month later

                I'm here to say ME TOO! I didnt even know this was a thing. I had an iphone 6 for so long, switched to the "big" iPhone 13 and now cannot use it.

                Luckily, in the interim I used a Samsung a51 while traveling, and that is how I clued in that it is basically the phone, not me. I have no issued on a51 and can scroll for hours on end. But within minutes of using the iPhone 13 Pro Max, I start blinking and feel my whole eyeball get sore. it feels like its swelling. Curious, I researched and found more information on PWM and eye soreness. Its an actual thing. Wow. How did this pass? How can this be good for people. I'm glad I found this thread. I joined this forum just to lend my voice to confirm it is a thing! I hope they fix it.. otherwise I'll be buying another Samsung next time. I need an updated phone I can use.

                For workarounds I have maxed out white point and maxed out brightness. This combination makes it not too bright but it hasnt really helped.

                And to avoid actually looking at the screen, I use the "screen reader function" which is pretty horrible and reads every single thing on the screen so it causes more brain work to understand, plus the pronounciations are all wonky.

                Anyway, Apple…. do better. I'll be going back to Samsung as soon as I can. i wish I knew this before, I would have returned the iPhone within days when I first noticed it!

                  There are plenty of us who don't have an issue with PWM if it's done properly. I use an older Samsung phone with no issue.

                  That said, there are plenty of Samsung phones that do cause a problem, so one should never assume any brand name's offering is good. Everything needs to be evaluated individually on a case-by-case basis.

                    5 days later

                    For me, it seems to be due to temporal dithering + IR sensor blinking.

                    I'm skeptical that the human eye can see IR, but.. if you haven't already done so, you can turn off face id.

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