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  • Eye strain with iOS 16 and iOS 17 - do NOT update iOS

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earlgreymilktea09 iOS 17 and iOS 16 look the same to me now, the headache is still there. I'd strongly recommend that you keep your phone on iOS 15 and wait. Or better, you can borrow an iphone with iOS 16 and see for yourself. But based on the case of your iPad, I don't think you will be happy with iOS 16 on your iPhone either.

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    I hate that many apps don't support me anymore. I'm on 14.8 until the screen falls off.

      Clokwork Same situation. Let's see if i will be able to use the iphone 15 with ios17..

      Has anyone had this fixed by updating to any of the iOS 17 versions? I had the same issue mentioned on this thread when I updated one of my 1st Generation iPad Pros to iOS 16.5. Because of this I luckily did not update my iPhone SE 2022 (which I can look at for hours with no issues). If you read down the thread you'll see that someone mentioned iOS 17 Beta 6 as fixing the problem.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/PWM_Sensitive/comments/14d9fzd/do_not_upgrade_to_ios_165_w_iphone_se_2022/

        I also have trouble with what seems like most "new" screens on laptops, many cars, etc. I've been assuming that this was something to do with hardware/led wavelengths/etc. I guess the fact that a software update can make a perfectly usable phone "bad" gives me a little bit of hope in that some day someone will figure this out with a software fix.

          ocean10 sounds like emulators. Thinking about how they emulate old games, we'll be emulating old devices heh.

          [deleted] try the iOS17 RC release. Switch to grayscale mode in Accessibility and move the slider to left. You will get colour back but its less saturated and may reduce eye fatigue

            m1ngw Thanks for mentioning this! I've wanted such a feature (greyscale with faint colors) for a very long time.

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            ocean10

            ocean10 I was on iOS 17 Beta too but did not notice any good. That guy was lucky to find a beta version that worked for him. It seems that we may have to wait for the next iOS, the current one is clearly not usable.

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            m1ngw thanks for the suggestion. I’m trying greyscale now to see how it turns out. It’s ironic that the damn billion-color technology thing is forcing us to reduce colors as much as possible.

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            [deleted] I updated my iPad to iOS 17. At first it felt better than ios16.5 but I felt The Eye fatigue after prolonged usage. Guess I’m probably gonna keep my phone on iOS 15. Sucks that we’re stuck on older firmware :/

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            You should feel lucky that you still have a device on iOS 15 to use. Many already updated and there are no going back now.

            I don't believe any IOS moving forward is going to work well. Until they change screen technology to something more eye friendly, I don't think we really have a chance unfortunately.

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            Can anyone with an iPhone SE 2020 confirm the gray-scale trick above has made the phone usable again?

              I tried reducing the colour saturation using the greyscale option and it seems to help. unfortunately I need give the 13 mini back so I can't use it for much longer. I've never had a problem with the SE 2020 or SE 2022 phones though I still prefer the screen of the original SE. will see if I can get another mini

              My 15 pro arrived yesterday. Desaturated the colours - no luck. Eyes felt like they were burning. Sorry Apple it’s going back. I will stick with the SE2022. Maybe I will try a 13 mini again with the return policy.

                m1ngw I don’t think anyone suggested this fix would work on OLED devices like 15 pro. It might help with LCD devices who those of us with dithering sensitivity

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                I’m on the ios 17.0.3 with iphone SE now. With ios 17, Apple seem to have already lost their mind in chasing billions of colors that they cranked up the color saturation all the way up and fked the color accuracy. The whole display and interface looks like cheap mobile phones for the poor people with no taste now.

                And of couse it is still dithering like hell.

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                Cozzyb The popular tricks that people use - greyscale and reduce white point - help to ease the discomfort a bit. Essentially what these tricks do are reducing the amplitude of light modulation (dithering of all phones, and PWM of those with OLED screens) so that we perceive less flickering.

                Unfortunately it is not enough to make the problem go away because the dithering and PWM are still there. So if you are on iOS 15 backwards, just hold on to it. Don’t update.

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