I don't know if it that harsh. Depends on people. Its sinusoidal waveform which is much softer then digital waveform.

I noticed with my peripheral vision, and it's annoying but I don't feel pain. At least immediately. Never tried watching to OLED for long times.

Harrison Ironically enough, I seem to have less problems on less sleep. Maybe my brain is literally working slower and my reflexes to flicker are not as fast! XD

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    MagnuM If I sleep in too long I find I don't do as well and I'm more tired. Inverse sleep.

    tfouto XS appears tolerable to me and I would like to know why, since I could not stand 8 and X...is there a plausible technical reason?

      tfouto Nope, mate. It costs 60% of my second-hand car :-)
      If it rains it does not shield me...
      I just accidentally passed by one of those huge electronics shop and thought of taking a look. My eyes were already in pretty bad conditions so I cannot guarantee, but I was surprised I could handle it fairly well. I read pages for 20 minutes and I expected to be in pain afterwards but nothing...
      I tried another day and same feeling.
      I would buy it - because I know that would be the final proof - if it only costed as a phone is supposed to cost...

      But thanks for your insight. Too much blue is not inspiring although I am quite convinced it is not the main source of discomfort to me. By the way, are screen protector supposed to cut blue light off besides preventing scratches? I was surprised by the intense blue light peak from my phone with screen protector on...I do not recall what is made of...I have not been able to find a transmittance curve for tempered glass...
      @martin I assume your Iphone producing UV was not screen-protected, was it? Because even simple polycarbonate should cut that off...

        degen Trying this eyedrop again. Cuts the glare while driving at night for sure. Pupil is way smaller (but only under low light conditions).

        tfouto I do not recall. I think some cheap tempered glass...

        Thanks on the True Tone. I will check if it has an effect. I wish I could rent an XS for a week at a decent price and check it out seriously. Is True Tone the only difference to the X that you know of? What about the flickering? I heard it was terrible for the X...is it at least nominally better now?

          Please remember the topic of the thread. -> Discussions about the XS in the XS thread

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          martin Got a magnesium prescription as a nutrition supplement

          Do you still take magnesium supplements? Do you think they've helped in your vision therapy treatment?

            ryans Not really, just easing the pain by working as a muscle relaxant. Not anymore, doing more therapy now. Made a breakthrough and now trying to push it further to get to a level of no pain.

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            Harrison Hm, I too have jaw problems. Shifted discuses on both sides. Happened like 4 years before the eye strain problem. I guess this could be described, in a loose way, as a permanent state of mild jaw-clenching. Makes me wonder, since @Gurm reported teeth grinding, too.

              KM

              Just to share my experience so far. I am starting to hesitate that some relaxation exercise will "cure" the eye strain issue for me.

              I am training with Alexander Technique and Feldenkrais for the last 3 years, i may even become a teacher in one if these techniques sometime in the near future, just to demonstrate my level of involvement. It all started as a way to help me with back pain. I am an chartered accountant by profession and long sitting hours had an impact on my back.
              In the above techniques we work a lot with the releasing extra tension in the eyes, in the jaw as well the neck. The techniques had such a profound effect on me that even my issue with chronic blocked sinuses have started to feel a lot better without medication. My neck, jaw and eyes are way more "relaxed" or released than 3 years ago. My sleep quality is very good, no teeth clenching or anything like that.
              Actually I am 40 and in combination with jogging (3 days per week 30 min per session), i am in the best bodily state ever. I do not follow a special diet though, i am just careful not to eat junk.

              However the strain issue, while there is some improvement, is still there. I can actually feel my eyes relaxed and very easy to move but when i sit in front of a newer laptop my eyes become tense and i get an intense headache and neck cramps.

                Peter I think the key you said is "newer" laptop. Are there any known-good laptops you can use? If there is, I doubt the problem is you not being relaxed enough, as you would be assuming the same bodily posture on a different laptop and not having the same reaction.

                Also, what if you hook up a newer laptop that gives you problems on an external computer monitor that normally you have no trouble with. Does the problem still occur?

                  MagnuM

                  Currently i use Inspiron 15 3000 win 10. Its a company pc. I have it for a year and everything seemed fine with some adjustments to the dell color settings and crizal glasses. Some time in the last 2 months some updates were installed and the laptop, although not unusable, it started causing me eye strain & headaches after an hour or so of use. IT in my company told me they do not understand why since display / graphics drivers were not updated.

                  Currently the only the way to work with the dell without any issue is to connect it to my trusted LG Flatron W1946.

                  Sorry for a bit offtopic, but i'm trying to finish my 'Lifestyle/Led' survey, but now there are only 16 answers.
                  I would be very appreciate if you will take participation in it (it's short, will take only 5 minutes), otherwise it would be impossible to publish any statistically correct results. Thanks.

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