Lauda89

Unfortunatelly, i cann't catch update, that break my perfect expierence. This is kind of the "shadow" updates, cause i don't see it in journal, and cannot to delete it. Now i use windows update blocker. but it doesnt help to me(cause it seems like no updates were installed) Something changes in my syste without any traces. I have no idea what it could be and how can i define it. I just reinstall windows every day when i need my computer 🙁 But i think i cannot live this wy for a long time.

Anyway, i am absolutely sure, tht this started on end of october- begining of the november 2022. Maybe this fact would help to discover this problem someday

      ryans If it was a BIOS or VBIOS update, that wouldn't be impacted by reinstalling Windows.

        ryans No. i checked bios. it has old version. This is defenetly something inside windows. But i couldnt find any traces. It is very strange - i checked eventvwr - and i didn't find any install or updates events. It looks like fucking magic. Some people say, thath DWM could be the reason - but it couldnt be updated without any traces. Very very strange things.

        Now i gonna try win10. maybe it hasn't this kind of "shadow" update

          OK, I'M GONNA SAY IT AND YOU'RE GONNA HATE ME, BUT HEAR ME OUT 🫥

          I did a back up and went to Win11 22H2. Also went for the latest NVIDIA GameReady driver version which is 527.56

          IT IS FUCKING AMAZING!!!! Can't even compare to Win 11 21H2, it blows it away! The 3D effect is gone, the slight shimmering on letters is gone, colors are vivid but without plucking your brains out all the time.

          I played PUBG on 165Hz for SEVERAL HOURS. Several Hours bruh… do you realize what that means?!?! It means this is the "HOLY GRAIL" driver and Windows version combo for me!!! I can recommend anyone with NVIDIA RTX 30 series GPU try that combo (but not before they make a back up of their working setup)!

          I immediately did an image and tried all ways possible to stop Windows Update and managed to stop it so far.

          The things that helped me to stop Win Update are the following two:

          https://linustechtips.com/blogs/entry/1474-eleven-different-ways-to-disable-windows-update-in-windows-10-updated-march-2019/

          AND

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRom8GhkuUs&ab_channel=Pureinfotech

          Good luck gang! I came to realize it is NOT the display/monitor at fault. IT'S ALL SOFTWARE AND RENDERING! It's all how the f-ing OS/software draws these frames on your screen!!!

          I will definitely be sticking to these two combined - Win 11 22H2, build 22621.963 and NVIDIA GR driver 527.56.

            Oshim
            If you try changing monitors you will probably return to symptoms. It's the combination of monitor and software not just the software.

            But this knowledge is useless if no one can figure out why with the same setup one software is good and the other is not.

              Oshim, great job finding something good for you. On my regular PC, if I force install W11 it will use a video driver from 2016 because Intel stopped updating the igpu driver long ago so I might have a very different experience. I do have a Steam Deck, I should try a Windows-to-Go drive on it sometime and see what happens since the drivers for it are current AMD ones (for RDNA2).

                Sunspark

                @Sunspark , if you're using an Intel internal graphics adapter, please try Ditherig.exe. It completely removes temporal dithering.

                I've tried it on my wife's laptop and it works wonders. Yes, a lot of gradient but who cares when it's good on the eyes.

                Someone here mentioned that laptops only go to 266 000 colors or something along those lines and dither all the rest up to 16.7 million. Ditherig.exe completely stops the dithering and I can confirm that it's very nice on the eyes. You should definitely try it with the internal graphics (that's what it was invented for).

                Good luck!

                  ryans What graphics does she have? Intel Iris or something else?

                  Hi @ryans , it's an old i7 CPU with Intel® HD Graphics 3000

                    Oshim I tried Win 11 22H2, build 22621.963 and NVIDIA GR driver 527.56. with my build: 1660 super + ryzen 7900X + aliewnware aw2518hf and dosn't work for me. 🙁

                        Lauda89

                        Very sorry to hear that :/

                        What's your monitor's panel? Mine is Innolux (using a Gigabyte M32q monitor). I've had huge problems with LG and AU Optronics panels in the past.

                        Also, I don't know anything about GTX 1660… I've had a 780 Ti and a 1080 before the 3080 and it did not collaborate well with LG and AU Optronics panels' monitors.

                        Seems you were correct that with a different setup it will yield different result and unfortunately you had to prove yourself right in a bad way. 🙁

                        *addition to above after checking your monitor

                        Hey, I just saw that your monitor has a TN panel. Could it be that FRC/dithering is the problem. TN panels tend to be 6 bit and to reach 8 bit color they dither a lot. Could this be the issue with you?

                        To see if this is the case, please try this in the NVIDIA control panel:

                            Oshim You are right, my monitor is 6BIT + FRC. Inside the nvidia control pannel i can't chose 6BIT, i've already tried with HDMI and also Display Port.
                            I will try to change the monitor with an OLED 27" 240HZ when they will be available.

                              dutv I'm going to try it tonight.

                              That update is the same one that gives me problems on my work laptop KB5020875.

                              KB5020875 W11 21H2

                              KB5020880 W11 22H2

                                  Lauda89 Unfortunately, the situation is not improving.

                                  I will try audit mode and an older version of W10 (1709).

                                  I know it is a software problem so all I need to do is to find the right combination.

                                    Lauda89 Is Windows Enterprise better for the eyes then Windows Home Edition?

                                        tfouto hard to say.

                                        I haven't done a comparison between the two versions on the same pc, but I would tell you it's the same. The audit mode of W11 is different, it definitely looks better but I can't use it on my work notebook.

                                        However, as you may have read, I had found the right setup and it was destroyed by the KB5020880 update.

                                        For now I uninstall it every day, but I don't know how long I can keep it up....

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