Usable Smartphones?

pikopilot_cz

Dear all,

may I ask you what TESTING SETUP / SETTINGS are you using? I am wondering what are you switching ON or OFF in Settings to get "safest" possible setup for your eyes?

I am currently testing realme GT 2 with AMOLED screen (RMX3311). I have:

brightness around 25-30%
blue light filter ON (they call it "Eye comfort")
DC dimming ON
Color Natural (DCI P3 OFF)
Screen refresh rate AUTO

Is there anything else what would you recommend from your experience?

Testing itself:

After cca 1 hour of testing, I need to say I am not so satisfied with the display. It is not so bad as Samsung A52s but still I have wet/sweaty eyelids and mild headache in forehead/temples.

I am going to test also Realme 8 5G (waiting for delivery) which was kindly recommended by Vividblue99 above (thanx again for recommendations )

Vividblu99

pikopilot_cz

Hey 🙂

Regarding the best settings when using an amoled screen for comfort - Generally the higher you keep the brightness settings, the less PWM will be experienced, so it's recommended to keep it at max brightness, and to then use a screen filtering app to create an overlay (to dim the screen).

Many blue light filtering apps offer the option to dim the screen through an overlay - twilight is a decent app that can do this. (You can also try the OLED Saver or PMW Fix Blue Light Filter apps).

The negative aspect of this though is the reduced battery life that is likely to be experienced.

Also activating developer settings and then activating "Disable HW overlays" under the Hardware accelerated rendering category will force all screen filtering apps to use the GPU for screen compositing as opposed to the CPU. This should (theoretically) enforce a more stable overlay with a reduced likelihood of flickering.

OtherJonny

Vividblu99 Do you know if any of these have decent 4g or above reception in the US? I have seen that the realme 8 doesnt have good reception but was curious if it was different with the x50.

Vividblu99

OtherJonny

Hey. Unfortunately I can't really advise on US reception speeds/stability, as I'm based in Europe/UK.

However if it's any consolation, I've never really experienced any major issues with Realme handsets in terms of reception quality or network speeds in Europe/UK. My experience with Realme has generally been reliable in this regard.

Xiaomi/Poco/Redmi not so much - as they can be erratic throughout their budget range.

Though I have noticed that Snapdragon cpu's provide more stable LTE speeds when compared to Mediatek processors (their earlier helio 8 and 9 series were known to be problematic), though Mediatek have definitely improved tenfold with their newer Dimensity chips. (Some recent reviews even suggest that the Dimensity 8/9/1000+ series have surpassed Snapdragon in terms of network stability/speed).

I'm aware that in the US, different frequency bands are used when compared to Europe. It'd be worth visiting a website like devicespecifications.com & searching the related handset to thoroughly review the network bands to see if it is compatible with your carrier in the US.

I know Motorola have a strong presence in the US, as they are originally a US company. I'm assuming their handsets should work flawlessly there.

Sorry I can't be of much help on this matter!

OtherJonny

Vividblu99 Thanks for the response! I did some searching and it looks like the x50 has more band compatibility than the 8. The x50 has 9/15 bands while the 8 has around 2 or 3/15 for 4G. So I may try the x50.

Icook

I bought the Nothing phone 1, and although it´s a nice screen i got an extreme headache / migrane after a short period of usage. It is worse than the s22 ultra and about the same as i get with the iphone 13 series.

For me a total no go and it´s now already on it´s way back to amazon. Unfortunatly because the phone feels snappy and has a nice look and feel.

Vividblu99

OtherJonny

Ok good luck!

Keep in mind - the x50 5g is a bit of a bulky heavy phone so it's definitely not compact, but the performance is decent nonetheless.

hoss11-1

I bought the poco x4 gt and i got eyestrain. like poco m4 pro 5g. although they are better than 11t and galaxy F/M62 and poco x3 gt

artcher1999

Какой телефон можно купить с IPS экраном после Realme GT Master Edition (от которого болели глаза) в районе 18 - 23 000 рублей? Есть предложения? Тут пишут, что Poco X4 GT, Tecno Camon 19 Pro, OnePlus Ace Racing Edition и Samsung A23 — это не то, что могло бы служить вечно, то есть у них есть проблемы с дисплеем

George357

Skylar1242 All fonts on smartphones (and every other computing device these days) are blurry due to the endemic use of antialiasing which seems to be the default everywhere now. The blurriness is less noticeable on higher resolution displays but it's still there and for me is intolerable: reading antialiased text for more than a few minutes gives me extreme eyestrain. I've disabled it on all my devices and no longer have any problems with eyestrain.

jpark28

George357 how do you disable this on devices?

George357

jpark28 How to do it depends on the OS. Fairly simple in Linux, a bit harder in Windows, seriously difficult in Android. Impossible to all intents and purposes on iPhones. Let me know which OS you want to try it on and I'll post a guide. Sorry for the delay in replying, by the way, I only just read your reply. I'm new to this forum and expected it send me an email notification when someone replied to one of my posts but it doesn't unless you specifically enable that.

Sunspark

On desktop OSes you can do this in settings via various methods. On phones, it can only be done within an app itself if it has a setting for it (very rare).

If you disable AA it is best to use an old font designed without the expectation of AA being present, that or a hidpi display.

CorvusCorax

Hi,

what do you think about Moto G200 (very high PWM)? I'm now using Samsung A52 (180Hz) and it's painful for my eyes and head. I use this phone few months but it's over, I can't stand it anymore. I have used these phones in the past: Moto G3, Moto G5 and Moto G6 without any problems, so my hope is in Motorola IPS panel.

Deepdeep

Hi, the moto g200 does indeed look good - no PWM at 100% and 50% according to notebookcheck. Have you tried setting the brightness to 100% on the A52 and then using an app like Twilight that allows you to reduce the brightness via software overlay? It might reduce your symptoms even if it doesn't eliminate them totally, and if you're lucky it might reduce them enough for you to build some tolerance over time, if you don't push it when there is strain.

CorvusCorax

Deepdeep Sadly A52 on max brightness is still 180Hz. I like to read books on my phone and ma previous Moto G6 was great for that, I could stare at the screen hours without issues. The A52 is great in many ways, but I can't read for more than 10 minutes on it 🙁

Deepdeep

CorvusCorax Yes, unfortunately there is 180 Hz pwm at max too on the A52, but when you set it at max brightness the off period of the display's pwm is much shorter than the on period. This reduces, or can reduce, the impact of the flicker due to pwm on us, even if it doesn't eliminate it totally. The only way to really know if it makes a significant difference is to try it (if you haven't already). But going for something with no, or limited, pwm is I guess your best option.

My main phone is an LG G7 which has relatively high freq PWM (1174Hz) below something like 60% brightness so I use it at max with brightness-reduction using Twilight or Color Caliberator (which seems to have problems on android 12) and I can use it quite comfortably. I also have an LG G8x (OLED) which has 242 Hz PWM at max too that I can use "fairly comfortably" with Twilight, but this doesn't seem to work as well for me on the Galaxy Note 8 which remains uncomfortable.

ryans

Deepdeep My main phone is an LG G7

I also use the LG G7. Something about this phone must be good for our eyes. Unfortunately it is becoming older now.

Deepdeep

ryans it's a pity LG stopped making phones, especially since they also had the best audio quality around.

JTL

Deepdeep I can tell you the DAC on the V20 was good in theory, but the drivers for it were atrocious so it had audio quality issues and random skipping with certain apps, which should not have been a problem. Different topic though.

Deepdeep

JTL haven't noticed any problems on the G7 and G8x which both sound great … while we're on this different topic.

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