Rui Thank you for the update.
Usable Smartphones?
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Rui Interesting. 4-5 years I had tried to install Paranoid Android on a OnePlus but without success. It looks like the phone has become harsher on the eyes over the last few years?
How is the camera? Thanks.
An update on the narzo 30 5g:
I discovered that in the "power saving" mode there is an option to dim the screen without using all the other features (of that mode), when i enable it the light from the display becomes less "harsh", i think this option is available on all realmes!
Before enabling it the light from the screen was too "intense" even at 10% brightness, but now i can go up to 25% brightness and the screen feels less "itense" if that makes sense.
That in combination with the option of " make the launcher icons follow the dark theme" + 60 hz makes the display easier on the eyes...but still far from perfect (still dosent match my old one fusion)
But the other problem that i didnt mention before is that i cant concentrate on what i am reading on the screen, but i cant tell if this is a fault on the narzo display because i already had that problem since last year (probably for using the crappy e5 play for so long) the bizarre part is that i am finding more difficult to read text on the narzo than on the e5 play (that is already difficult to begin with)
Finally, today i installed the Color Calibrator App and it helped an little more, i dim the screen even more with it (it seems more pleasent than lowering it on the systen settings) and also make the whites more likeable for my eyes.
For now i boost the score from 5.5 to 6.8/10. It is improving, not perfect, not better than the fusion but now usable!
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I haven't had the chance to test the cameras since I only started using more frequently Nord 3 in the last few days. But I guess they seem ok. In the paste I valued a lot the cameras. Nowadays not so much. I rarely take photos.
Now I'm in a dilemma (1st world problem…)
1 - Keep Nord 3. No eyestrain, no headaches. Just a tiny pressure and only sometimes and only for a few seconds. If I didn't know about PWM, I wouldn't care about it and assume it's from looking to a small screen. Even if I don't have problems with Nord 3, I believe all amoleds are not good for our eyes in a long run, whether you are pwm sensitive or not. So to keep my mind in peace, I should chose Moto G73.
2- Keep Motorola G73 (LCD). Box is still sealed. There are LCD's that also give problems, like for example Poco X4 GT. Opening the box an realizing that would make me return moto G73. And it's more difficult to return a used phone. Also motorola has a bad update policy. But I always liked motorola, it has an LCD (so more chances that I don't have problems in the long run, if it has a friendly LCD) and it's the perfect size for me (6.5").
In the next days I'll have to make a decision…
Just keep the Nord since it's fine. You'll get used to the slightly larger screen fast. You can change the colour profile to srgb. You can also change the refresh rate and other settings.
LCDs are not wonderful across the board.
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Rui Just keep the nord and dont open the g73, the g73 dosent have very good feedback here and on ther sites (there are still sensitive people that can use It tho) but if the nord if working fine for you then opening the Motorola is risky, there are high chances It Will give you problems. Just keep the nord and if you want you can buy an cheap LCD phone that have more chances to be Safe (for example.. honor 70 lite ir realme 9 pro)
Sorry bad english
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Some people on MacRumors say the iPhone 15's will have a 480hz PWM, I wonder if that will help. Looks like the 14 was 60hz and the 14 Pro's were 240hz.
wlmsn Some people on MacRumors say the iPhone 15's will have a 480hz PWM, I wonder if that will help. Looks like the 14 was 60hz and the 14 Pro's were 240hz.
Quoting myself to include this video that discusses PWM in their "first look" at the iPhone 15 -https://youtu.be/0AHVQL01KPs?si=v8WzVJaNPXHwZMCi&t=1044
I've never heard of this guy before but he seems to mention PWM in all his videos so I'm glad to see it getting more notice.
Rui Is your oneplus nord 3 is it Dimensity 9000 version and is it usable for you longtime use any headache, eyestrain I am going to buy it?
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I use more my work phone (Samsung A32 with LCD). But when I use OnePlus Nord 3 I have no problems. But be careful. Radex results are not good for Nord 3, acording to this Russian video:
https://youtu.be/PQ2cambZkZk?si=UVygzl2125RJO5DG&t=535
But despite having problems with all amoleds (except Xiaomi 13) for some reason I don't have problems with Nord 3, yet…
I have tested many phones have to sell it because of pwm 90% lcd didn't give me any problem if it has no pwm
Result:
Oneplus Nord CE3 lite 5g=despite having lcd its bad for me after changing to 60hz and night light it's usable for some limited usage but still some eyestrain using for past 4 months because no other option
Nothing phone 1= really bad pwm not usable
realme 11 pro plus 5g =not good returned it despite having 2160hz pwm
samsung m34 5g = lot better than samsung A52s it give less eyestrain but after use give mild headache still it give some eyestrain but usable for limited time
Samsung A52s 5g = worst pwm in all phones
realme x3 superzoom= lcd but really great no eyestrain but not 5g
samsung m31=usable for long time but not 5g
Vividblu99 I got a realme 9 pro a while back and have been using it occasionally around the house. It seems to give me headaches/tinnitus, especially when I use it in the dark. I wanted to see which version I have (your old one or your new one) so I loaded up the same comment and took a screen shot. I took one screen shot with "eye comfort" turned on (I think on the left) and another with it turned off (I think on the right). Unfortunately neither of my screen shots matches yours. I used the small font, but I wonder if there are other differences in our settings.
I've now turned off "eye comfort" and I'll wait a few days for the headaches/tinnitus to go away and then I'll give it another shot.
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It appears Oppo, the parent company of OnePlus, has a new accessibility option for High Frequency Dimming. It has potentially hopeful results for PWM sufferers: https://reddit.com/r/PWM_Sensitive/comments/16se07k/smartphone_oled_panels_a_new_hope_by_oneplus_oppo/
(User the_top_g
on Reddit has excellent posts on /r/pwm_sensitive
).
Vividblu99 Can you tell us what model you purchased? I'm thinking about getting the Andonstar AD246S-M which claims to have a 2000x zoom, which would seem to be plenty to see the individual pixels, but if that's the model you have then I'm not going to get it.
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I was at the store just now. On the way out I looked at the cellphone booth and played with a few.
Writing to let you know that the Samsung Z Fold5 on Android 13 is good.
This is a folding screen, so you can feel the bend under your finger, can't be helped.. but it's a neat device. The folding ability makes it a compact tablet, and the folded outside is another screen. I didn't pay attention to the outside screen.
Demo mode is set to vivid, but looked fine. You can change it to natural in the settings and it looks better.
Specifications: https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_z_fold5-12418.php
Yes, I know this is a super expensive device for most people. Check it out in a store if you have opportunity to do so.
PS. I have no plans to get a phone anytime soon, my 2019 device is doing fine. Also, in terms of PWM, I can use it if it's a good kind. This Z Fold5, I looked it up, it does 240 Hz 50% and up, and at lower brightness levels 120 Hz. This is fine because the waveform looks softer, the peaks look wider than what I have now.
Rui Any update on Oneplus nord 3 I am going to buy it in this sunday I tried so many amoled smartphones but no luck on my side so please answer ?
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ashento899 If you are able to use current IPS LED laptop and monitors you should be fine. If they cause you problems, this phone will not work for you.
I bought it and tested it, it gives you a massive amount of control over the screen in options easily found in settings. Colour mode, refresh rate, eye safety, blue light blocking, etc. It's amazing. But it's still IPS LED so it did not work for me. I had the same symptoms as I do with all laptop screens made after 2020.
nikomanuel96 Guys, last update on the narzo 30 5g.
The good things first: now that some weeks have passed i focus more easily on the screen and text. I gave the e5 play to an friend, so i guess stoping using it helped to focus well again.
Another thing is that i stoped using the color calibrator app, it was not stable enough.
Now goes the bad (or not so bad) part: i just updated it to android 13. I know it was risky but i just did it.
The good part is: the update is actually good performance wise. Even if i have the 4 gb model it dosent feel worse than a11 , everything is smooth.
The bad part: the default font changed, is not that good in comparassion to the a11 one. Now the notification bar is transparent, it looks good on videos and so on but seeing it live on the narzo is not that good, it looks more like an "strange" gray. You cant make it dark like on a11.
Also the option of diming the screen on the battery saver section dosent work like before, now it only works when the phone is below 25% .
Now goes the good part again: when i see all of this i was thinking i destroyed my narzo, but even with the ugly font and so on i dont feel more or less eye strain using it, i feel the same as on a11!! .
Also, i discovered i can enable the dim option like before using the "set edit" app, i just have to search the "power_save_backlight_state" string and change it to 1. And vuala! I can enable the dim option anytime i want like on a11. But you have to do this everytime the phone reboots.
So yes. In the end i would my eyes adapted to the narzo and realme ui 4. I would like the notification bar was black and not transparent as it looks weird for my eyes, and also that the backlight was less intense, but other than that is okay. 7/10
Sorry bad english.