My galaxy s22 is basically issue free. It's oled so has PWM but my understanding is that it doesn't dither. I think for me dithering is the main issue, so the s22 works for me.

pavelbures Sorry it's the 20s, not A20s

https://www.amazon.com/TCL-20S-Unlocked-Smartphone-Charging/dp/B09H5KM217

Still my daily driver, with HW Overlays disabled it very tolerable.

I am still waiting for an academic proof/relation between temp. dithering and eye discomfort/nausea/headaches.

There isn't one. Everyone jumps on the "dithering/flickering" explanation cause it sounds like it makes sense. IMHO it has pretty much zero to do with our condition

      Aquila I've had success with two ACL phones (A30 and 20s) so I would give it a try

        If someone wants to try older iphones: my wife is using an iPhone SE 2 for a few years now, doesn't have issue with it, and I never had any issue with it either, including today using iOS 18.1.1.

        (compared to my iPhone 12 Mini which is a pain to watch for more than a few minutes).

          Limitless I'm switching to an iPhone SE 2020 (2nd gen) from my iphone 8. It seems to have an identical display. I tried an 11, but the display was newer, and the OS was updated all the way, so it wasn't good for me. If you can find an older 11 that somehow still has a good battery (or where the battery has been replaced but not the screen) you might have luck but right now the SE 2020 seems to be the best bet. It's the same generation as an 11, so it'll support iOS updates for quite some time.

            7 days later

            ensete

            There is a probability that our problem is broken brains. That's why it is so unpredictable. Some patterns of light entering our eyes provoke impaired reflexes. So, nobody knows that patterns. And also, they are not the same for all of us.

              16 days later

              Hi,

              I'd like to comment on the Fairphone 5 which I could test recently.

              It is definetly different than many other phones, you can switch between 60 an 90Mhz refresh rate manually and you can manually (!) enable DC dimming.

              The first day I used I coulduse it for 2-3 hours without issues but after a short while symptoms came back.
              I haven't tested all possible combinations of display setting yet.

              Unfortunately besides the sustainability thing it is not a very nice phone: Quite Slow, connection problems, camera ok, battery not.

              But woth trying it

              regards

              /stede

              hello,

              Has anyone tried the new Oppo Find X8 or Vivo x200 or Honor magic pro 7?

              they supposed to be much better on the eyes…

              thanks

              reaganry I certainly agree that an ad-hoc thread about the general concept of the usability of smartphones over almost a decade is not the most productive way to discuss and organize such information

                  a month later

                  I managed to try the Oppo find X8 (not Pro) international version.

                  straight away gave me bad feeling, caused a bit of nausea, even worse than iphone 14 pro 🙁

                  I have had another success with an older phone I had lying around that I tested, it was an old Moto G8 Pro, it caused significant eye train, I activated developer options, and disabled HW rendering, and it actually made it usable. So if you ave an Android that causes you issue, it's worth a shot. I an 2 for 3 trying it.

                  A thread screaming for a Survey

                    moto g55 not good (same as g54 and g75). Not mine feedback, but from sensitive users.

                    Perhabs, android 14 "dithering" ?

                    ...........

                    4 days later

                    google pixel 5

                    sony xperia 1 V

                    7 days later

                    Report on Poco x4 gt. I bought a Poco x4 gt to see if it is good for my situation of eye pain and eye fatigue etc, all problems caused by ledstrain. And well, after some configurations the result was that I got a 70% improvement in eye fatigue, it's not perfect, but I can use it for 10 minutes, 10 minutes in which I do everything I need to with a smartphone.

                    The next step is to save money to buy a Xiaomi 14 to see if it solves my problem.
                    I don't know if my report is useful, but if it helps someone...

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