Usable Smartphones?

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jordan
This is great, interesting to see the SPD of a AMOLED display, thank you for sharing.
It reminds me of the graph of QD-OLED desktop displays.
I'd love to see a few smartphone SPD's collected in a spreadsheet, so we can start recommending different technologies to different potential eye strain concerns.

Other ones I could find:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/11269/display-report-huawei-p10-and-p10-plus
https://www.anandtech.com/show/10871/the-huawei-mate-9-review/4
https://www.anandtech.com/show/10217/the-lg-g5-review/4
https://laptopmedia.com/analysis/samsung-galaxy-s6-review-a-bunch-of-innovations-in-a-beautiful-body/#p4 (can judge based on AdobeRGB coverage)
https://laptopmedia.com/review/samsung-galaxy-tab-s7-review-120hz-ips-display-paired-with-the-extremely-capable-snapdragon-865/#p4
https://laptopmedia.com/analysis/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-review-is-this-the-most-innovative-smartphone-in-the-world/#p3

Collecting this data, along with measuring G2G response times would be great for troubleshooting eye strain concerns.

GregAtkinson

JTL FWIW, I've found the posts from @Vividblu99 (and some others) to be very helpful. He generally lists the phones that he's tried and how well they've worked for him.

If we did start a new thread, maybe we could enforce a format something like:

iphone SE: gave me headaches within 30 seconds of using it.
iphone 15: usable for 10 minutes
...

This wouldn't be perfect. For instance, the same model doesn't always have identical hardware or software. And what works for one person might not work for another. But I think I would find it much more useful than the last year's worth of the current thread.

ocean10

jordan

What is this tool you are using? Have you found it helpful to find useable devices?

jordan

ocean10 This is the Mk350n premium by uprtek. Its helpful to test devices/bulbs for flicker and color spectrum but so far all devices just seem so bad for me. I actually have to view the meters screen through a phones camera because the lcd on it bugs my brain.

GregAtkinson

jordan I actually have to view the meters screen through a phones camera because the lcd on it bugs my brain.

I have to do the same thing when I need to do something on my son's phone. It's a pretty useful trick.

jordan

GregAtkinson it sure is! thats how I have to look at my moms phone if she shows me something. lol (iphone se 2020)

cofisc

after years of trying devices without luck i got a honor 70 lite (as recommended by forum members) and it worked for me ,i recommend this phone for very sensitive people because it has no pwm and no dithering , the screen is a basic tft panel

Rowe

I just got the new Bigme Hibreak Pro and it's a major step forward for e-ink phones:

https://store.bigme.vip/pages/hibreak-pro-landing-page?srsltid=AfmBOoody8_4Mhc_vfqyOhbv173dxDyuJkIQCOPC6WgK5wxY-9VRc4sS

I mainly use mine as a pocket reader and web device, but it reduces my iPhone screen time to almost zero.

I reviewed it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ereader/comments/1j2tavy/bigme_hibreak_pro_pocket_reader_review/

lennylevino

Rowe

No temporal dithering? All the mediatek devices I've used have all dithered.

Clokwork

Rowe I keep an eye on this device. I just have concerns about data security.

Rowe

I don't know, but when I've used devices with temporal dithering (e.g. macbooks) on e-ink screens the results have been very poor. Until it's switched off.

The optimisation on the Hibreak Pro is excellent, so I doubt this is an issue. They claim it is 'zero flicker'.

Rowe

Clokwork Considering the device is Play Protect certified, what additional security concerns would there be if only using Play Store apps?

I’m not an expert on this, but I’ve seen comments suggesting that with Play certification, the CCP security risk is lower than that of the routers and networks the device connects through.

Clokwork

Rowe If its running 100% pure Android, I suppose it could be ok. If there is any modification whatsoever to it, its possible to have any amounts of data be sent home.

Sunspark

Security is good, but be realistic too.. The Chinese don't care about nobodies like us. Americans however, would add all of us to their databases.

Clokwork

Sunspark I can't say I agree with this 100%. We are cattle to any company, country, entity that can profit from our information.

Rowe

But online comments warning of the security perils of fully Chinese devices are much more common, compared to all the other devices that are still assembled in China but fronted by Western companies. I also don't think CCP care about any of the data that would be on my device. But American companies want to mine that data much more. To be honest I don't really care about that much either outside of authentication and transactions.

noigmn

Still on e-ink. Using a Hisense A9 these days. Faster than the older Hisense e-ink models and XDA got way more involved so it can run a range of systems rather than just root and add GApps.

Pity the next model with Kaleido 3 colour never came out.

I don't find using B/W that much of an issue, but would like a good small screen that doesn't trigger me too much to cast to for colour when I need it. Tried one that was meant to be flicker free, etc. and sent it back very quickly.

GregAtkinson

For anyone interested in the Realme 9 Pro 5g that lives in the US: I had previously been using the Realme 9 Pro 5g, but a couple months ago the cell service and mobile data started acting really funny. I called Mint Mobile and they said my phone is no longer compatible because my phone doesn't support one of the key bands (I don't remember which one). I tried a bunch of carriers (both AT&T and T-Mobile), but I could not find one that works. So, if you live in the U.S., you probably want to avoid this phone.

GregAtkinson

I recently bought a Moto G Power 5g 2024 and I'm really happy with it. No headaches/nausea/tinnitus.

Here's the waveform using the Thorlabs PDA100A2. I went to a couple different stores (Best Buy and Microcenter) and tested about 50 phones and this was the best Android phone (i.e., lowest flickering) I could find.

No PWM at any brightness level.

There were a couple iPhones with a relatively smooth waveform (iPhone SE 3rd Gen and iPhone XR 4G), but I prefer an Android so I didn't look too closely at those.

Intet

Aquila No good for me. Got me bad headaches early. I assume temporal dither, but could not test it and returned it the next day.

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